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Why would someone have no friends?

There are a host of reasons why some people have no friends…and it is more common than you might think.

QUESTION

Hi there,

I am so happy to have found your blog! I have a problem that has been ongoing for my entire life, pretty much. I have no friends. Well, let me restate that: I have no friends who keep in touch without me doing all the effort and even then it is spotty! I am 35 years old.

A little history, in case it is applicable to my current problem: in middle school, I had a very close best friend but she dumped me, which was really tough. Then, in high school and into college I had some best friends that I ended up dumping abruptly over the littlest thing, which I have since realized was due to trust issues that I have worked through now. So why can’t I keep friends?

I have a group of three friends whom I have known since I was about 21. They don’t call me or email me really, but if I email and rally everyone for a get together we have fun… but then nothing. And I hear from them that they have gotten together in the meantime. I don’t get it- what is wrong with me?

Around the neighborhood I chat, make meals for the new moms, etc. but then nothing. And the other moms get together without me. I have female cousins who are really great, we have fun when we are together—but they never call or ask me to get together. It always has to be me.

The fact that this is a pattern in all my female friendships troubles me and makes me think that I am doing something wrong, but I don’t know what. I am a caring person and go out of my way to ask people about their lives when I am having conversations. My therapist has said that there is nothing wrong with having to be the one to always initiate a get together, but then I see my others who have a group of close friends who get together and really support each other, and I wonder, why not me?

I am an only child and sometimes just feel very alone. Other times I feel okay with having no friends. But all in all, I wish it were different. Do you have any advice for me?

Signed,
Amanda

ANSWER

Hi Amanda,

Ouch! It sounds like you feel like you’re a pariah. It’s impossible to guess why your friendships don’t “stick” and there’s no uptake by others but the problem seems to be a pattern rather than a one-time occurrence—and something you want to change.

Can you self-identify your specific problem (s)? Here are some of the possibilities why people don’t have close reciprocal relationships with friends. I’m sure other readers will add to the list.

Temperament – Are you shy and uncomfortable around people? This can make people around you feel uncomfortable too.

Insecurity - Do you feel like you can’t measure up to the people you want as friends? Are you able to trust other people? These may be barriers that create distance between you and your friends.

Preference – Are you introverted? When push comes to shove, do you actually prefer being alone rather than spending time with friends? Do you think people know this when they’re around you? Or, are you extraordinarily social—so preoccupied with making lots of acquaintances that you lose out on making close friendships?

Psychological Issues – Do you have a history of difficulty establishing intimate relationships with others? Are you uncomfortable with people knowing the real you?

Lack of Experience – Regardless of age, some people lack the skills needed to make and maintain friendships. Do you think you have what it takes to be a good friend?

Situational Obstacles – Do you live in a geographical area where it is particularly difficult to connect with people? This might include living someplace rural where there are few people or because of a history of frequent moves, being someplace where you feel like an outsider.

Disabilities – Do you have a mental or physical disability? Unfortunately, because of stigma, people shun individuals with mental or physical disabilities. In addition, being homebound can limit the opportunity to make friends.

Personality – Is there something about you that others find grating? Are you too needy? Too pushy? Too talkative? Too controlling? Are you fiercely independent—wanting to call all the shots regarding what, when and where? Sometimes, there is something off-putting about a person’s behavior and the individual lacks awareness of the problem.

Communication Style - Do you respond to your friend’s overtures as well as initiate contact? Are you available on line or by phone, depending on your friend’s preferred mode of communication.

Time Management Problems – Do you have a hard time juggling all the responsibilities and demands placed on you? Do you consider making time for friends selfish or frivolous?

Unrealistic expectations – Have you led your friends to believe that you will always do the organizing? Do you have an unrealistic, romanticized notion of friendship? Do you expect all friendships to be perfect and last forever?

Talking to an objective third party is a good way to gain insight into something you can’t figure out about yourself. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a therapist; it could be your spouse, a sibling, or someone else you trust.

Since you are already in therapy, perhaps this list will provide a useful starting point to explore various possibilities with your therapist. I agree that something is amiss given the scenario you have described and your desire for more reciprocal friendships.

Hope this is helpful.

Warm regards,
Irene


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  1. johan says:

    hi darlene or irene , im concerned about terri and sharon , i see nither has writen lately . i know terri,s hurt because of all thats went on in this blog , but i think sharon feels pushed out of this blog , and i know that was not really ur intention , i know u really just wantted to get this blog bk to its purpose . would u contact them both since i cant at this point , and speak with them about my concerns . i really dont want to lose either as friends and i know they both need to talk with others to fill there lonelyness , and i ask again could u give sharon my email information ?

  2. johan says:

    hi , to all of u in this blog . i am just like all of u trying to learn how to have friendship , how to have conversations with other people , every day of my life since i changed ive gone through lots of hurt of the heart u could say heart hardneeing . but ive just wantted to try to forget about those hurts those pains and let them go , and instead try to have friendship instead of dwelling in my pain , for me i thought it was different because i dont have any friend were i live and people dont seem to like being around me ,now ive learnt i do identify with people and continue to strive to find more ways to stay positive and learn about the people i do meet , and i really thought thats what this link was really about , helping people find and get through the hardships of lonelyness and not having friends . with that i say im sorry i deverted what ever this link is really for .

    • Darlene says:

      Hi Johan,

      I have been following this blog from time to time and felt that I needed to talk to you, as we have spoken before and I’d like to offer you some encouragement.

      Johan, the reason why no one has answered your question on how to make friends and how to be with people is because no one can answer that for you. All we can do is help each other find our own answers, does that make sense?

      In my opinion, you have learned a lot. For one thing, I think your writing skills have improved a great deal and you have gained quite a bit of understanding of how to connect with others. That is real progress, it won’t happen overnight, you just have to work at it bit by bit. I think you need to be a little more patient with this. :)

      You have connected with Sharon, which is great, hopefully you can talk more over Facebook.

      Keep trying, Johan, and you will get there, okay?

      • johan says:

        hi darlene , ty for writing me and the confidents booster , i have to admit i really felt lost in this link but now im seeing to the side other things people write i identify with , and irene gave be a place to vist for advice i think will help . now i think ill on on an adventure in this link looking for help to give me better understanding of people and maybe even make more friends , i do know both sharon ,and i belong in this link ,and are only looking for the same things as every one else that come,s on here but i also know sometimes the hunger i have to do this gets in my way . ps ty again

        • Darlene says:

          The hunger you describe may make it tough to be patient at times, but that same hunger will drive you to keep trying. This is a good thing, because it will help keep you going, even at those times when you feel discouraged. :)

          Glad you are checking out the information Irene has provided.

    • Terri says:

      Hi Johan. No hard feelings. I think you know Sharon is incorrect about me. My heart was in the right place. She needs to realize that I befriended you on this blog before anyone else did and I really just tried to help you. This all got crazy, but I think you’re a nice person and really wish you the best.

      • johan says:

        awww ! ty terri , and ty for always trying to help me , yes i know ur hearts in the right place , yes were both hurt , but i also know real friends are always willing to make up . the most important part to me has always been our friendship . im still on ur side , but really i think u know it is nice to have friends that stand with u too , sharon has a wonderful heart wantting friendships like ours and the people in this link , please lets just try to move forward and for get what happen ,

        • sharon says:

          Dear johan thankyou for saying you love ma as a friend same here to and also you have explained to terri you are on her side i understand that clearly as you have known each other longer but terri if you thought anythink of johan please dont put him in the middle of these silly argues lets just forget about the aruements about comments any of us have made and lets forget it sometimes life to short to argue as i told you id never be a bully but dont like to see a friend upset and i can be a good friend on this blog to anyone on here yes johan you will always be a friend to me and soon id like to start my own webpage to make good friends ive loved your company johan about facebook you said yes im on it i will type it in to get you see how it goes but i dont ever want to break a friendship up between you and terri or others and at the moment terri dont quiet understand it but about her commenets i have taken no notice about if she wants to start being alright i will understand and talk i really understand if she gets naggy sometimes i think everybody does dont mean it but i never done anythink anyway darlene it was lovley what you said earlier thanks yes there is a page thinking of and i will talk to most of you there when i set it up dont know when let you know always liked to run somethink like this but only true friends only and yes johan you will be first dont worry anyway up to terri now if she just wants to forget everythink start again as i thought she was alright at first helping you so shame to argue we can just all get on anyway see what happens johan if not i will just let you all be as you dont want to upset anyone i do understand that but at the moment im going off the blog till its sorted and no me daughter still not well thanks for asking johan you have been the best on here ive ever talked to and i will look up facebook if not i will never forget you i wish you well you was the best one i ever chatted to as the upset ive had over years it helped by chatting and looking forward to talk to you but yes everyone gets upset but we learn to deal with it but you was one kind hearted man to know and thankyou so much it was lovley knowing you sharon takecarex

          • johan says:

            dear sharon , yes of course i want to continue our conversations , and it would be nice to talk together on facebook too .i think of both u and terri as friends , i see were really all the same looking for the same things , friendship and not to be alone in our lives anymore . really terri did go out of her way to try to help me even though i felt many times judge by her , it was and still is more important that hopefully we all still remain friends .i think u should also check out other parts of this blog like i am startng to do there is good advise here , ps i wasnt talking about irenes link on face book i was just talking about the normal face book , there,s lots of people to meet on there too . and for me u,ll be my first friend to add . i hope ur family is doing well , huggss

  3. johan says:

    hi sharon , i think i might have to leave this link , i think im causing issues , i dont know if u have face book but if u do just look up johan moody . i hope we can continue talking with each other i feel ur a good friend .

    • Amy F says:

      Have you guys thought of taking this off the blog into a private chat or email? I’m a little worried your very important discussion might have taken over the conversation and might deter other people from posting their own comments about the original post. Sometimes conversations take on a life of their own and become social and personal without people realizing they’ve developed a friendship. I’m glad you’ve been able to support each other.

      • Terri says:

        Good idea Amy. It’s getting out of control anyway.

      • johan says:

        yes i have thought of doing a private chat , but im limited to how to private chat because they wont let us give out our information on this blog , but im still trying to figure out way to private chat .

    • Irene says:

      Good idea, Johan. I agree that it’s better to take this conversation off this thread now because it’s so personal.

    • Laura says:

      Irene created the forums for these types of offshoot conversations. It’s the green button on the very top right of your screen. My understanding is that comments here should pertain to the original posts. It really makes it hard if someone comes here for help and there’s all these side conversations going on, so please use the forums.

      • sharon says:

        WELL THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR THAT LAURA NONE EVER TOLD ME OR JOHAN THAT YOU SEE WE HONESTLY DIDNT KNOW I DO APPOLGISE TO YOU AND OTHERS FOR POSTING CONVERSATIONS ON HERE AND TO IRENE AND MANY OTHERS BUT WE WHERE NEVER EVER TOLD ABOUT THE GREEN BUTTON THANKYOU HOW DO YOU MAKE A PAGE LIKE THIS AND WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO REPLY PLEASE WRITE BACK THANKYOU SHARON

    • sharon says:

      hi JOHAN YEA I WILL LOOK ON FACEBOOK BUT OTHER DAY I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO MEN ALLOWED ANYWAY ON FACEBOOK HERE YES MEN ARE ALLOWED TO CHAT TO YOU SO BE OKAY FOR YOU TO GO ON THERE AND I CAN CHAT THERE TO YOU YOU WILL SEE THE MOST UPSETTING THING ON THERE WHAT IVE LOST MEND THE WHOLE WORLD TO ME AND CHILDREN WE STILL GRIEVE TO THIS DAY I ALWAYS WILL I MOVED HOUSE TO HEAR AND I BLAME MYSELF FOR MOVING AS IT WOULDNT OF HAPPENED MY HEART ACHES ITS BROKEN AND YOU JUST SUFFER IN SILENCE THATS THE WORST THING OF ALL BUT I DO PUT A BRAVE FACE ON FOR YOU AND OTHERS IF SEE PEOPLE BUT YES I FEEL A LONER TO IF IM HONEST ITS LIKE THE SAYING GOES YOU CANT MEND A BROKEN HEART ITS TRUE BUT HEART ATTACK FOLLOWED AND PNUMONIA WOKE UP INTESIVE CARE IN HOSPITAL FEW YEARS AGO I SURVIVED INTENSIVE CARE CAME HOME 6 WEEKS LATER I COLLEPSED IN STREET ON MY OWN LUCKY I MADE IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILDREN AND THRERE DAD I MADE IT HOME LEAST IM NOW HERE TALKING TO YOU YES YOU DO HAVE TO STAY POSITIVE ITS HORRIBLE WHEN THAT BAD ACHE COMES IN STOMACHE BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK THERES ONLY US WHO CAN HEAL IT IM LEARNING TO GO AND DO REIKA HEALING PEOPLES GREIVE AND THINGS ALSO REFLEXOLGY I ALREADY PASSED GOT MY CERTIFICATES FOR AROMERTHERPY PASSED THAT FEW YEARS AGO ANYWAY HOPING TO RETURN TO HOSPITAL TO WORK AGAIN WHEN CHILDREN OLDER LIKE IM ONLY 40S SEE YEA THE SAME FOR ME MOVUIING HERE I DONT HAVE NO FRIENDS HERE OR I DONT KNOW ANYONE EITHER YEARS AGO LEAST YOU A;LWAYS HAD THAT GOOD NEIGHBOUR TO RUN TO IN NEED NOONE NOW IVE BEEN THINKING JOHAN ME AND YOU CAN RUN OUR OWN BLOG ON HERE YOU KNOW AND HAVE FRIENDS AS MANY AS WE WANT AND CONVERSATIONS HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF LAW AND ATTRACTION I USED TO GO TO THAT VERY GOOD AND INTERESTED THOUGHT MANY TIME I COULD START A LITTLE GROUP UP ON HERE WE WOULD REALLY ENJOY IT HONESTLY AND AT LEAST EVERYBODY IN OUR GROUP WOULD BE WELCOMED AND WANTED JOHAN JUST EXPLAIN HOW TO WRITE A PAGE AND SET IT UP PLEASE TRY NOT TO WORRY IM WORRIED TO AS I NEVER LIKE TO UPSET ANYONE BUT WHAT I HAVE SAID IS ONLY ONE HALF OF MY LIFE HONESTLY I KNOW HEART ACHE BUT WE HAVE TO BE POSITIVE NOW I CAN SEE WHY YOU LOVE LEARNING IN SCHOOL NOW LIKE I LIKE TO DO COURSES AND KEEP GOING AND YOU PASS YEA JUST COUPLE COURSES TO PASS WHEN IM READY WELL I JUST HOPE WE CAN FIND SOMEWHERE TO CHAT OR IF IRENE CAN WE WOULD APPRICATE IT THANKYOU BUT YES MORE FRIENDSHIP WOULD BE BETTER TO HELP THE PEOPLE IT DEFENTLY WOULD WE ALL HAD A PAST WHERE SAD SOMETIMES WE ALL HAVE A FUTURE STILL OUT THERE IF IRENE CAN UNDERSTAND WE DO NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO NOT A LOT TO ASK WHAT WAS I FORGET THE NAME SAID PRESS YELLOW BUTTON ON COMPUUTER IN CORNER I DONT UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT TAKES YOU TO WELL JOPHAN I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE IF I CAN GET YOU ON FACEBOOK I WILL REALLY TRY IF NOT I DONT KNOW HOW TO CONTACT YOU BUT YES I WOULD SET ONE OF THESE UP WHERE MORE PEOPLE CAN HAVE FRIENDS DO YOU JUST CRETE A PAGE AND EMAIL OR SOOMETHINK LET ME KNOE HOPE YOU ALRIGHT I CANT HELP SAYING THE TRUTH EARLIER TTO OTHERS BUT I WAS ALWAYS BROUGHT UP TELL THE TRUTH THAT WAY CANT GO WRONG CAN YOU HOPE TO HEAR SOON YES MISSED YOU ALWAYS WILL TAKECARE SHARONX AND YES FOR THE SIDERS NO HARM IN TALKING AND BEING FRIENDLY ONE DAY I WILL HAVE A WEBPAGE WHERE EVERY BODY CAN CHAT AND IT WILL HELP THERE LONLEYNESS WELL GOODLUCK JOHAN HOPE I CHAT LATER ON TO YOU PLEASE WRITE BACK IF YOU DONT HEAR FROM ME YOU KNOW WHATS HAPPENED THEY BLOGGED US BUT GOPEFULLY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND IF THEY ARE HONEST PEOPLE CATCH YOU LATER FROM SHARONX TAKECARE ALWAYS

      • johan says:

        hi sharon , how is ur other daughter doing . sharon im a brave person i wont mind anything u post on face book . as u,ll soon see , i dont even have a picture on face book . just type in my name at the top to search for my name . personally i hope u dont mind me saying i love u as a friend . please lets try dont to talk about what happened with terri in this link , lets try to move forward , i agree with ur idea about a blow , wow ! infact i had the same idea , many times now i look forward to ur letters , i think the button there talking about on here is the mingle button , but i didnt know were to go from there .dont forget in facebook my name is johan moody , ps i have no camera to take a picture of myself .hope to here from u soon .

  4. johan says:

    are there other links were i might get my friendship questions ansewered ?

    • SHARON says:

      DEAR JOHAN I ITS SHARON HERE IN THE HOSPITAL AGAIN LAST NIGHT TILL EARLY HOURS MORNING, MY OTHER DAUGHTER NOT WELL NOW SAID SHE HAS SLOW APPENDIX I THOUGHT THATS ALL I NEED ANYWAY SENT HER HOME AFTER 8 HOURS WAIT IN THE HOSPITAL THEN HAD TO SEE GP THIS MORNING ANYWAY SAID IF THE PAIN GOES ANY WORSE OR VOMITING OR TEMPERURE I HAVE TO RUSH HER BACK HOSPITAL SO AWAKE ALL NIGHT AGAIN TONIGHT,KEEPING EYE ON HER OTHER ONE BETTER BACK IN SCHOOL BUT CANT DO GAMES AT MOMENT OTHER WISE BREATHLESS,ANYWAY YES HOW IS YOURSELF HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I MISSED YOU LAST NIGHT WHATS HAPPENED SINCE I HAVENT BEEN ON HERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK ASK THEM JOHAN I PROMISE I WILL TRY AND HELP YOU AS MUCH AS I CAN JUST LIKE TERRI SAID SHE HAS DONE BUT YES I WILL TRY THAT LINK AND SEE TO CHAT TO YOU NOW IF IM NOT ON HERE TOMORROW ITS BECAUSE OF A REASON OK DONT WORRY YOU HAVENT CAUSED NO ISSUES NOT YOUR FAULT AND TERRI AS TRIED TO HELP YOU BEST SHE CAN AND NOW ITS UP TO YOU HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT BUT YES I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU THATS WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR ANY QUESTIONS I WILL TRY AND ANSWER THEM OH ABOUT YOUR TEACHER THATS NOT GOOD IS IT HEART ATTACK VERY SUDDEN WHEN YOU GET ONE ,PAINFULL TO HAD ONE FEW YEARS AGO AFTER I WORKED IN HOSPITAL BUT YEA ITS ALRIGHT NOW DOING ALRIGHT I WILL HAVE A LOOK AT THAT LINK NOW AND SEE ANYWAY IF YOU DONT HEAR FROM ME ITS BECAUSE IMPORTANT REASON LIKE LAST NIGHT SOMETHINK SO PLEASE LOOK AFTER YOURSELF DONT WORRY CATCH YOU LATER HOPEFULLY TAKECARE SHARON

      • johan says:

        hi sharon im sorry to hear about ur other daughter , and its ok that u arnt always here i know u,ll get back to me when u can , just take care of ur family , and we,ll contact each other when we can .

  5. johan says:

    hi terri , ty for saying u feel im doing well with u and sharon . personally i still feel lost , i dont really know what to ask to get to know u two better or how to identify with either of u . i came into this link thinking id get friendship help and made a few friends . but im still lost and im not sure were to turn to next . i have been asking questions but thet havent been getting ansewered . maybe know one really knows the ansewers to my questions or at least at this point thats how i feel .

    • Terri says:

      Johan, seriously….you can’t get to know people on a blog better than what you’ve been doing. Maybe you’re expecting way too much. Do you think anyone on this blog has the answers you are looking for? If we did, why would we be here? As far as identifying with people, we all identify with each other to a certain extent, that’s why we are here. I am not sure exactly what you want. But you are starting out like a 10 year old almost in a 56 year old body. It’s hard to know what to do to help you, though I have been trying.

      • johan says:

        terri , ive been telling u the truth since ive been on this blog , i never lied about being inexperinced with people , thats how it is for a person thats never been around people before . maybe it sounds like a 10 year old to u , but in truth it only shows the truth i bring to this blog about people who have never had friends before . i thought the owner of this blog was suppose to understand and beable to give ansewers .but terri please dont go around insulting people ur only demeaning ur self not anyone else . ps yes thats what im trying to learn is in what ways we identify with ach other , or i thought thats what i asked .ps at least im smart enough to see even at 57 i can still keep learning

        • Terri says:

          If you think I’ve insulted you, it was not my intention. Of anyone on here, I’ve given you the most time, except for Sharon. I think you two should continue your friendship off this blog because I feel you have a lot in common. I also do not demean myself. It’s funny how at times you are capable of using terms like “demeaning” and clearly understand their meaning and then you portray yourself at other times as almost childlike. That’s not an insult, but merely the truth as I see it. I have tried to help you and gone out of my way to be friendly and teach you and you should not repay that by insulting me.

          • johan says:

            wow ! terri sorry to ruffle ur feathers , yes i felt insulted too , but im am very smart thats why i ask questions , but no i never act childish , thats for those who wish to feel they have to talk that way to others . ive always liked u even when u didnt really know any thing about me , or believe what i wrote . i dont know how sharon and i will continue to talk together off this link , but im trying to find ways , if i hurt ur feeling mine were hurt too . i have always respected ur opinion but i cant respect ur opinion of acting like a child without defending my self just like u did , yes im learning and adapting fast . but i have a long way to go .

            • Laura says:

              Johan,

              I saw your comment about wanting to improve your writing skills. Check out your local community college. I don’t know where you live but where I live they have much to offer to adult learners.

              • johan says:

                dear laura , ive been in a ged class for about 1 and a half years now , i started in a 2nd grade level now im up to almost 7th i just need a few more points . all my teacher are amazed ive went this far this fast they think if i can pass the langauge level ill be close to getting a ged , but i feel i want to try for college , i have nothing to lose and everything to gain , ty for ur idea

                • Laura says:

                  Johan, that is wonderful that you’ve made such quick progress! You can do anything you set your mind to. A good community college will work with you to get your through the right developmental classes, then into credit bearing courses.

          • SHARON says:

            HI TERRI I DONT KNOW WHATS GONE ON HERE AS IN HOSPITAL WITH ME OTHER DAUGHTER LAST NIGHT SLOW APPENDIX,,,I DO SEE YES YOU HAVE HELPED JOHAN WITH FEW QUESTIONS HE APPRICATED THEM ,SAYING ABOUT ME WHO AS DONE NOTHING AT ALL AND SAYING I SHOULD CONTIUE FREIENDSHIP OFF THE BLOG ,NO I DO THINK THATS WRONG THERE,AS WE DONE NOTHING ONLY TALK ON HERE LIKE I DID TO YOU MAYBE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT IT MAYBE WISE FOR YOU TO GO OFF THE BLOG FOR A WHILE TILL YOU CALM DOWN THAT BE BETTER ALL AROUND JOHAN IM PROUD OF YOU FOR SAYING AND STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF YES YOU SAY WHAT YOU MEAN AND GET IT OFF YOUR CHEST AND YOU FEEL MUCH BETTER BY IT JOHAN WELL TERRI I WOULD SAY CALM DOWN BEFORE YOU GO CHUCKING PEOPLE OFF HERE JUST FOR HELPING PEOPLE NOT NICE IS IT YOU WOULDNT LIKE IT SO JUST LEAVE IT BE AS WE ALL DONE NOTHING HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THANKYOU AND DRAGGING ME IN IT I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ANYTHINK ABOUT IT YOU SHOULDNT BE LIKE THIS WITH FRIENDS OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE NONE BEING LIKE THIS TERRI ITS JUST NO GOOD

            • Terri says:

              Hold on you two. I never said or meant that you shouldn’t post on this blog anymore. Others have suggested you discuss things that are not the subject of this blog in alternate places, not me. I simply said that you two have a lot in common and should try to develop your friendship off this blog, meaning in addition to here….ALSO, off the blog. In other words, try to develop a real friendship, not just posting on a blog every day. That’s all. Don’t take it in a way it wasn’t intended. This must be due to the language barrier we have. And I have done nothing but try to help here. But I’ll stop now. I don’t have friends on this blog, by the way. Just people I posted to on a blog, that’s all. This isn’t our real, every day life. It’s a blog.

              • johan says:

                hi terri im sorry u feel the way u do . i still think of u as a friend reguardless of whats been said , i know sometimes even friends can say things they dont mean , and its ok , we really dont personally know each other but ive still enjoyed ur honesty , and its why i dont want to lose ur friendship .

              • sharon says:

                terri yes its a shame you made a silly comment like that really as we was all getting on so well it really didn’t have to be like this we all had conversations including me and you and johan and we liked the conversations some think to look forward to and it was a shame its all had to stop as Irene said all conversations now stop so it really means nothing to talk about at all anymore no friends no nothing well thanks teri nice one but if you read it when you go on this page it warned you about this blog anyway about bullys before and Irene didn’t do anythink to stop it read about it like I have read but you could have said that when me you and johhan where on here this week just all chatting to each other you was in conversations as well as us we wasn’t the only ones so when she said take your blog of conversations off here vit would mean you to as you have been chatting to us as well but about trying to help people at first ui thought yes maybe you was now you reliose different well that means we can all take our blogs elsewhere what a lonely place this will be thanks to you terri I hope you are happy with yourself

            • Irene says:

              Sharon,

              Terri has extended herself being patient and understanding.
              Please take your conversation off the blog now.

              Thanks
              Irene

              • Terri says:

                Thank you.

              • sharon says:

                To Irene I don’t know what had gone on when I wasn’t here I was in the hospital with my daughter but when I come back on here terri was having words with johan and terri metioned my name and I hadn’t done nothing I talked to them both few days before and then she brings me in it sorry I didn’t like this when she started picking on myself also on johan I felt someone needed to speak up I did talk to her I have said I know she had been understanding so have I but its silly that when you have a conversation with them that you get told off if that’s the case why is it such a site for people to make friends if you cant have conversations with them you can sort things out and have conversation same time we all haven’t had it easy and its nice to have a conversation with people its all because me and johan was having conversation as well that was no harm to no one at all we where letting others have they say and listening and sometimes you would reply to other people but they never ever responded back now that to me is a waste the time as they on here as they want a friend to they will never get one that way will they ask about terri it wasn’t my fault you couldn’t understand the conversations as you said you did not need to take it out of me and johan we done nothing I cant help it if terri don’t understand us and passing horrible comments to us so theres only one thing I can say she tries and gets on or you take the decision to lose us of no fault of me and johan it causes one person which you believe teri maybe she has tried to help and understand but she shouldn’t be allowed to comment on other peoples personal life like saying they nedd full stops question marks ect we all don’t have the time like that some of us don’t but no shes picked on us for days if you was reading it all when I first come to this blog it told you to be aware coming on here in big writing I should of took notice as it said about another person got bullied once and you stood right by them I thought surely you couldn’t let it happen but yes its warning you on here I should have thought twice sharon

                • Terri says:

                  What’s wrong with you. Your writing skills are horrible and it’s hard to read what you write. How is that bullying. You talk about telling the truth, well that’s the truth. As far as not having time to put periods and commas in your sentences…..are you kidding me? You have time to write 10 books a day on here, but you can’t use a couple periods (full stops to you)? Give me a break. Why don’t you shorten some of your posts to like 1/4th the size they currently are and use the rest of the time to make sure your writings are readable.

                • Irene says:

                  This conversation has gotten too personal and off-topic. All further comments of that nature will be removed by the moderator. Thank you for your cooperation.

              • johan says:

                hi irene , sorry about all this , is there anyway u can either let sharon and i exchange information , to stop all this , or u can give sharon mine .

            • johan says:

              ty sharon for being such a good friend and standing behind what i say . huggss .

              • sharon says:

                hi johan yea you are welcome always that’s what a true honest friend is for takecare

              • sharon says:

                yea johan Irene as wrote to say get coversations off blog to me yes she has took terries word not oursi have said if she would have been reading it she would have known terri started all this not me or you anyway also said what it warns you on here that bullying was going on here before and it says Irene stood by them just like she has again now by terri its completely wrong 2 sides to every story and like it says on blog when you come on here she lisins and stands by the bulling side it warns you all on here when you switch it on so quicker we off here the better yesa I will look up that one you told me and try and get you on there we to good for here anyway thanks johan for always being there and id think carefull about on here read it when you put computer on its all on there from ages ago as someone went through same thing it says at the end of the day jealous because you have conversations that’s all no wounder they have no friends anyway catch me later takecare sharonx

                • johan says:

                  wow ! sharon and ty , i once was a very nuteral person i didnt take anyones side , but now that ive changed i see its only right to step up for ur friends , i dont really know terri maybe she felt she was doing the right thing , i only know she at least was trying to help with my writing , and she was the first to offer , i thank her for that , maybe she felt i should try harder , maybe that was the reason fr her hidden comment , yes i like her trying and felt i found a friend . i also know somes friends don,t always agree . i still think of terri as a friend , because at least we talked together just like u and i , yes sharon i think ur tops because u never judged me because of my writing ty my friend .hope to hear from u soon .

                  • Terri says:

                    Johan, you need to tell your friend Sharon to back off. You two have very similar writing styles. Sometimes I think you are the same person. But if you are two different people, of course she would defend you. Her writing is worse than yours. I’m sorry, I tried to be your friend and then you attacked me for simply trying to help you get better at writing. You didn’t want to help yourself. You kept fighting it. Finally Irene had enough. I don’t blame her. So have I. And like I said, you should get your guard dog Sharon to chill out. She’s the one ruining this for everyone, not me.

                    • johan says:

                      hi , terri i forgave u the minute i felt u insulted me , but really maybe we all should be careful of the words we use towards each other . im glad i found a friend like sharon , but also i dont want to lose the honesty of ur friendship either , yes and no im just sure i completely understand the parts of langauge u offered yet . but also f u look i did defend u too . in my futher i hope to understand caps and puns , but please dont rush me .im not sure how to ask sharon to let us stop with the bickering towards u but i,ll try . ps thats what this link is for to find people who identify with each other . ps ur still my friend terri .

                  • sharon says:

                    hi johan no i would never judge you you always know the way to go its a shame how terri as turned out i thought she was ok first, but after realised no shame really there you go the trouble is she dont like the truth as she just thinks shes a teacher but she needs help in other ways to shame but there you go,yes got to admit she was understanding helpfull first then there is another side to her shame no good all im saying johan just be carefull as now you know there is 2 sides nice one minute and terrible the next minute shame she turned out like that she will never have a friend like that she spoils it you know what i mean she has had a go at you loads of times i would never be like that with you as i fully understand what you are going through anyway takecare love to you and the family i will never forget you you are a good friend and soon we will not be able to get on here just remember when you down go for peacefull walk feel better when you come back your good friend always sharonx

                  • sharon says:

                    MESSAGE REMOVED BY MODERATOR – THIS THREAD HAS GOTTEN OFF TOPIC
                    THANKS

  6. johan says:

    ok , irene , i do know now identifying with others is a good way to get to know people , are there other ways to get to know people ?

  7. job says:

    if ive gone through multiple groups of friends, do you think its me at fault?
    i lost base with friends in HS after I moved and they are all still friends. I always had the same issue of not being invited out. dont know why.
    then my new group of friends, did the same thing and id never hear from them unless i made contact.
    third group, same deal. Now its just me and my gf and random people i call acquaintances, but again, no one ever reaches out.
    the main issue is i never ever hear from anyone unless I go way out of my way. the friends who ive known for the last 5 years, i just stopped messaging them in dec to see what would happen. Not a word from them.

    ive tried being the one to plan things and it doesnt work out, people always give half ass committments. so what am i doing wrong? is it me?

    • Terri says:

      I don’t know if it’s you or not, that’s only something you or those close to you can answer, but I do know I have a similar problem, but I’m sure that it IS me. I’m not willing to have relationships in which I have to put in all the work. And like you, that was what was happening. So, finally after years of putting myself through that….I’m down to about 2 or 3 friends and a wonderful boyfriend I’ve been with for 11 years and I’m happy with that. It’s all how you look at it. It’s better to have only a couple quality people that treat you the way you treat them than a bunch of people who take advantage of you and your efforts.

    • C.j says:

      This happens to a lot of people at some point in their life. They just lose friends from high school for one reason or another. But yeah I get why you’re frustrated about no one reaching out. I’ve often felt the same way. I think a lot of people just cant be bothered half the time. They just make up excuses or wont reply because they dont want to say “no” and make the person feel hurt. Maybe they are busy a lot, forget things or bad at being organized and keeping plans.

      • johan says:

        hi cj , sorry i havent got bk with u in a while , i really dont read very fast yet , infact its hard for me to read all these blogs in here . i just want u to know u do have friends in this blog and that does inclued me .

        • C.j says:

          Hey Johan, no worries. Haha neither do I. There’s just too much to read. My brain is not good at keeping up either that’s why I usually dont. I think you wrote heaps earlier, and just want to tell you to keep it up, and it’s nice to see others replying as well. Thanks heaps, Johan. It’s good to know that, and I am here as well if you need someone.

  8. Frans says:

    Hi Irene I have read some of the comments I sometimes feel like I am the only one of my kind.I use to be a introvert when I was younger but the job I do now as a Sales Representative I have over two hundred clients and I am now more of a extravert but still I have no real friends and because of a relationship I was married and very badly hurt by my ex I did everything in my mind that I believed a good husband would do for his wife the wedding of her dreams ect.Or so I thought of being the perfect husband now my hart has become very hard when it comes to relationships and trusting people I am trying my best to overcome this but alot of times I always end up alone and I meet women from time to time but I just feel like I will never meet the women of my dreams any advice please?

  9. Jen says:

    This isn’t a grammar post, is it? Christina, I’m sorry for your loss. I’ve lost many friends throughout my life. You will find someone new. It just takes time, and it gets more difficult as we get older because everyone is just too busy with their jobs and families.

  10. Dearsey says:

    I am having the same issue now. I find myself to be kindhearted and lovable though others don’t like it. I got accused of being close to others and those that was around don’t like it. I respect people and I am very thankful for those i do meet. If someone treat me loyal I treat them loyal. I know how to keep to myself but that would make others think I’m self centered and bitter. Its the little things that turn people off when you start to become being ok around. I dont like when people ask me questions start hugging me to let me know I do have people that loves me but when I start returning the love in a friendly and caring manner they get upset and want to start acusuing me of

  11. johan says:

    ha ! thats so nice trying to correct ur self , bet u really dont know why we do any of those , i found out months ago not even the most brillent teachers only know they use those forms of english is because thats the way our langauge has been through out 100 s of years . they have no clue other then that , i myself can read what ive wrote fine without any of of what is so called proper english . and im sure u can too . yes i need reading and other writing help . but uve only failed ur self by instead of making fun of others , u should help and teach them the knowledge u have .

  12. johan says:

    hi sharon ,sorry i havent wrote u , i was in school all last night , i hope ur daughter is doing better , i dont mind if u have to rush to write me bk , thats what friends are for , my teach had to go to the hospital so he wont be teaching for a while , their trying to move my classes but i cant seem to find any good teachers .miss u huggss

    • Grammar Totalitarian says:

      You used the wrong their/they’re.
      You need to capitalize your “I”s.
      You forgot to punctuate your sentences correctly.
      You have failed me, son.

      • johan says:

        i challenge u grammar to instead of making fun of others to teach people like me about grammer . because u have to be smart enough to see anyone willing to try never fails its those like u that wont help people like me that are the true failures .

        • Terri says:

          OK Johan, if you really mean what you say, I’m going to try to help you and Sharon and anyone else that has problems with writing.

          1. Capitalize the first word of every sentence, no matter what.
          2. If you’re not sure how to spell a word, google it first or use spell check, whatever is available to you.
          3. Think of writing the same as talking. You wouldn’t never pause between sentences when you are talking so you should pause between sentences when you’re writing too. A pause when you are writing is no more than a period. Look at my sentences. After ever sentence, there is a period and then the next sentence starts with a capital letter.

          That’s a start. You can learn about punctuation like commas, apostrophe’s, etc. another time. That’s a little more advanced and, in the long run, when writing on a blog, isn’t that important. It’s just hard to read sentences that never end that have no capital letters, etc.

          • Irene says:

            Thanks for these helpful comments, Terri. Written language is a form of communication and if someone really wants to be understood, it pays to put in the extra effort as you suggest.

          • johan says:

            hi terri , wow ! ur always so funny . but im glad at least ur willing to try to help others all u can ty for that . in some ways i dont really even see uses for caps . i can read any sentence without caps of any sort . i do some what understand the period parts and the question parts but i can understand those too without the period or the question mark . i know that caps and the other parts are part our langauge past down for 100S of years .but i also know not one person really knows why there really used they just do them . i think its pretty nice ur trying to show how to use them .

            • Terri says:

              Ha…I wasn’t trying to be funny. I was trying to help like you asked. So, even if you don’t see the use for proper english use, grammar, punctuation, etc., it is still how people communicate effectively. So, why not use caps? It’s pretty easy to do and since you obviously understand how to use periods, it wouldn’t be that hard to start the next sentence off with a capital letter, would it? Just sayin’.

              • Terri says:

                Also, it is difficult to read run-on sentences, that is sentences that should end, but don’t. It’s much easier to read sentences that are grammatically correct, use proper punctuation and have few, if any, spelling errors. Just my opinion. As far as why it’s the way it is?? Why ask why? Why is the sky blue? Why do we go to the bathroom in a toilet? Why do we ride horses when we have cars? I mean, I don’t see why those things need to be the way they are either, they just are. Some things just are.

                • johan says:

                  hi terri , no i mean ur were funny because i was really challenging grammar not u , but ill take what i can get and really i think ud be nicer about showing how to do proper english .and yes ive just started learning about run on sentences .

              • johan says:

                terri , ty for trying to teach me english , im tough student im not the type to follow the crowd just because thats the way it is , im the type that has to fully understand , and without a full understanding of english i,ll never truly know how its done , but i see ur point because even the best teachers dont understand english either they just do it

                • Terri says:

                  Well, I won’t keep trying to teach it if you don’t try to use what I am telling you. Still don’t see any caps, but a lot of commas. That’s good at least. Don’t forget the periods and the caps. :)

                  • johan says:

                    well , for a six grade education and still tring i think i do pretty well for not understanding caps or commas . slow down a bit im not even sure how to use my key board to do caps or apostrophes thats why i use comma,s instead .plus i know if im going to pass the ged later i need to learn all this stuff and understand it .

                  • johan says:

                    hi terri , last night i got on my computer and looked up were the caps are , and i noticed if u push the caps lock all that my key board types is caps , and just pushing the shift button the caps come on and off and i saw the apostrophe button too , i still havent figured out how to completely use them though , but at least i know were there at . i also dont know why the first word in a sentence is capped or why any word is capped .

                    • Irene says:

                      Please try to stick to the topic of this blog, asking for and giving friendship advice. I appreciate your openness to learning language and keyboarding skills but it diverts from the purpose of this blog. Please limit your posts to those that are on topic. Thanks, Irene

                  • Irene says:

                    Thanks for extending yourself, Terri, and trying to be so helpful and positive. Best, Irene

                    • johan says:

                      hi irene , wow long time no hear , well , i did ask for friendship help , but since i was,nt getting any help , i just thought i try asking for other help i need . at least i was getting some writing help . that was better than nothing . ok so lets get back to friendship help , i still need a lot of help there yet .

                    • Terri says:

                      No problem Irene, I try sometimes. Sometimes I get frustrated, but when I see someone trying to learn, I have to try to help. Johan, you need a computer class to teach you where all the keys are. And you seem to be doing ok taking with people on here. You’re doing well with Sharon and with me.

          • Julyrain says:

            After reading it, I feel I almost have all the problems listed there… What should I do?

            • johan says:

              hi july , im not real experinced with having friends yet , but i think as they,ve said to me , u cant give up and believe in ur self , i am , ot i think i am the least experinced person with people on this blog , i once was a total loner , but i fell for the wrong girl , but its was ment to be because without her comming into my life i might not have ever chanced , getting to know people certianly is not easy , but at least uve found people on here u identify with , i think thats a good start and finding other ways u identify with others i think will bring us both success . good luck

    • sharon says:

      Hi Johan yea was wondering where you was but don’t worry I fully understand what you in school for at your age don’t worry we can all understand what you write I think you are doing really well anyway I have habit when emailing is pressing wrong key on keyboard ,but anyway don’t matter how are you anyway yea my daughter a little better now on the mend thanks for that I wrote to terri other day but never answered back must be busy others ive emailed they don’t email back either I don’t know they all want replys but don’t answer anyway going to ask you how do you put a bit about yourself on here with reply at the bottom of page like you do what you have to do let me know please oh you never said if you have nice views where you live either can you see the beach from where you are you very lucky I only see trees here anyway still freezing cold here still got snow to come do you ever have snow there then or not. when I send this now I have to press send 2 times before you get it well I bet you having a nice cuppa again and burger lucky you hay I got a cuppa to a coffee so going to enjoy that now well takecare catch you soon sharon

      • johan says:

        hi sharon , its nice to hear ur daughter is feeling better , i live in the country close to the strawberry farmers , but i do go fishing a lot , and to lakes as well as the ocean , mainly ive been going to school to learn to read and write when i was young i never got to learn to read or write but know im thinking i might get my ged too .i like it were i live its quit most of the time . we have trees, strawberrys ,and schools mostly around were i live . its been very nice here so i went fishing and caught 7 bass , ps ill always write when i can , just now school started back and im doing 6 classes a week to get caught up , and ty sharon i think im doing pretty good to for starting at a 2nd grade level . talk soon huggss

        • sharon says:

          Hi Johan lovley to hear from you Sharon here yea nice you live in the countryside where it is peacefull,And its really good that you have come this far with your reading and writing you have done really well I was just saying that’s all at your age I wouldn’t of bothered but if it is somethink you always wanted to do I understand that to you see as you never to late to learn either you have done really well I think and me well I do know how to do it all I had to in the jobs you worked years ago but these days don’t have the time to think of a question mark never mind full stop never mind you will get to know me but yes thankyou my daughyter alright now school Monday for her . oh about fishing years ago someone took me fishing I was watching and me friend starting talking to friends we new fishing I said can I have a go said yes so I was so chuffed I caught a fish but when I realed it in it was heavy rubbish in water the real got stuck I fell in never again all my friends laughted it was stuck to weeds in water so that was it never bothered with fishing again but yea summer holidays loved it that’s what we all liked doing thoughs days anyway how have you been today have you been anywhere nice oh don’t worry if you don’t write one night I understand you are studing in school don’t worry but anyway johan I mean it you should be proud of yourself getting this far I am for you anyway you go have a cuppa coffee and some supper I will catch you later takecare as always sharon

      • Terri says:

        Hey Sharon, I think it’s great that you are reaching out. Sorry I didn’t write back the other day. I go to school and work and have a vinyl record business, so I’m very busy. I put some hints above about how to construct a sentence correctly if you are interested. Maybe with you it’s just typing in a hurry, I don’t know. Johan said it would be nice if people like me would try to help others or teach them, so that’s what I did. Where do you live? I always have wanted to go to Europe, but haven’t yet. I’m from Los Angeles.

        • sharon says:

          Hi Terri nice of you to write back to me lovley to hear from you. Its a great idea what you have said about capital letters ect yes I do appricate it but yea I have always been able to do all that but these days with rushing a letter and busy as I am don’t have time for a full stop but thanks anyway yea, you live in los angelers long way from me I live in great Britain northwales but yes its nice that you are really helping johan I understand hes doing his best and you are as well but at that age I don’t think I would bother personally going back to school but its what he wants and hes doing really well I say good luck johan so terri how long you been in the vinyl record business then is that cds or records or what not sure anyway lovley to hear from you write soon sharon

          • johan says:

            hi sharon , wow ! i think its pretty nice seeing u and terri talking , terri always trys her best to help out others , personally i think terri,s a very nice person . yes im liking school and im meeting people even aroun my age at school , so thats a plus . sounds like to me u had fun fishing , and a little laughter is good for the soul , heck ill do stupid things sometimes to get a laugh or embarass myself , just for fun . im glad to hear your daughter is doing better , and ty for the support of my schooling .

            • SHARON says:

              HI JOHAN WELL I HOPE YOU ARE ALRIGHT YEA HAD A CHAT WITH TERRI YEA NICE TO TALK TO,MY WRITTING WENT SMALLER EARLIER DONT KNOW WHY SORT IT OUT TOMORROW SO AT MOMENT IN CAPS SHOULDNT BE LEAST YOU WILL UNDERSTAND IT,NICE YOU LIKING SCHOOL AND PEOPLE YOUR OWN AGE TO TALK TO THERE YEA NICE ONE,YEA ABOUT FISHING THAT WAS ALONG TIME AGO ID LEFT SCHOOL IN A JOB THEN BUT YES IT WAS A LAUGH BUT NOT WHEN I FELL IN THE WATER IT WASNT NEVER FORGET IT THOUGH,I LOVE SWIMMING THOUGH ALWAYS GOING TO BATHS LOVE IT ONLY IN SUMMER THOUGH, DO YOU LIKE SWIMMING I BET NICE BATHS THERE BY YOU WELL I CANT SLEEP TONIGHT DONT KNOW WHY AND GOT TO GET UP IN 4 HOURS TO DO CHILDRENS BREAKFAST , YOU KNOW YEARS AGO DID YOU OSED TO REMEMBER THE OLD CB RADIOS I USED TO BE ON THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD AND TALK TO LOADS OF PEOPLE THE PEOPLE YOU TALKED TO WAS AMAZING BRILLIANT ,TERRI IF YOU REMEMBER THEM LET US KNOW YEARS AGO THEY USED TO HAVE THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD I WILL BE SURPRIZED IF YOU OR TERRI NEVER HEARD OF ONE . GREAT THEY WAS.SO BEEN ANYWHERE NICE TODAY THEN WELL IM GETTING A CUPPA AND THEN GOING TO BYE BYES I WILL CATCH YOU TOMOWRROW ALL BEING WELL TAKECARE JOHAN FROM SHARON

              • johan says:

                hi sharon , nope i perfer showers not baths , but yes i love to swim , but there arnt many places to swim here .i also do a lot of other things with my life i bowl , fix cars , play card games and many just stay active . yes i remember cbs and ham radios . i had one to bk then , they were fun . bk to school for me today too , im going to have to look for another night teacher tonight , mine had an heart attack and is,nt coming back .have a great day see and hear from u soon .

          • Terri says:

            Hi Sharon. It really doesn’t take that much longer to put a period after a sentence than it does to leave it out and it makes it much easier to read what you are trying to say. I have to admit that it’s difficult for me sometimes to understand what you are saying because of the way you structure your sentences. Sometimes I don’t even want to read long posts that I see that are just one long, long run-on sentence. It’s hard. That’s why I’m trying to help. Because I would like to read what you are writing, but if it’s too difficult to do so, I won’t. I have been in the vinyl record business since 7/2013. My boyfriend and I used to have a regular store, but now we only sell on-line. We both have regular jobs as well, and I am going to school part time to get my Accounting degree. So, I am very busy. It’s never too late to go back to school. I would love to go to Great Britain. We will go on a tour, hopefully soon, to visit Rome, Paris and London….maybe 12 days or something like that. I can’t wait.

            • johan says:

              wow ! id like to learn how to talk with people like u two do . i think thats part of my problem talking with others i still dont completely know how to identify with people like u two do .

            • sharon says:

              Hi Terri yea I do know what you mean don’t worry I will take a leaf out of your book,I didn’t know how difficult it was for you to read anyway dontknow what I pressed on keyboard now writing gone smaller some reason,you have to just read this one as it is im afraid ,I know ITS GOOD YOU BEEN IN THE RECORD BUSSINESS SICE 2013 GREAT DO YOU SELL CDS AT ALL ,NICE YOU GOING ON A TOUR STILL LONG WAY FROM ME BUT THAT WOULD BE LOVLEY HAS HAVE NICE SCENERY AND VIEWS,WELL HOPE YOU ARE ALRIGHT DONT KNOW WHY MY WRITTING WENT SMALLER BUT I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND IT NOW ,GREAT YOU GETTING YOUR ACCOUNTING DEGREE NICE ONE .WELL CATCH YOU AGAIN SHARON

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