Being dumped by a friend and then the former friend wants to reconcile?

I was wondering how to approach/respond to a situation in which a friend dumps you and then later wants to rekindle a relationship. Can it ever work again? Should I set new ground rules to change the balance of power? There is still hurt there and it seems like there could be one of two possible scenarios:

1) Friend is interested in coming back into life, but only on their terms
2) Friend apologizes for previous problems and wants to start fresh again; and willing to re-invest time into relationship

In this situation, it will most likely be #1, which would most likely just offend me. But #2, I could probably be willing to work with. When a former friends want to re-enter someones life, what does it tend to be more, or none of the above?

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Hi! In answer to your last question, it depends on the situation what is going on, there is no answer to every friendship. If the friend only wants to reconcile on her terms, that isn't fair to you. Healhty relationships define friendship paramaters mutually, not one person over the other. The exception is when one or antoher friend has done something horrible. For example, if a husband cheats, the wife gets to have the right to know where he is at all times and he should have to explain himself whenever she wants, for a reasonable amount of time for her to build trust back up again. But the husband has betrayed the relationship so that is why the wife should be allowed to set terms for awhile. If you have not committed a huge crime in the friendship she should have no right to define how it should be. Sure, you can both have paramaters, such as you can say "I am not willing to open up to you again if you are giong to shut things down and not talk to me. If it happens again the friendship is over. How can we make sure that doesn't happen again?"

Friends on Their Terms

My former friend is still a co-worker which has put me in an awkward position. I could more fully heal from her months of bad behavior if I didn't have to see her once or twice a week at our part-time job. For me, this ex-friend has been hot/cold a lot, but I believe a supervisor recently talked to her about her attitude because she was behaving hateful towards other co-workers (about scheduling & work issues) so while she has been much nicer to me since the first of the year, she's been more disrespectful towards others. This shows, to me, that she is not really a stable person. She's with a manipulative & controlling man who is making her life miserable, yet she remains in denial about their relationship and takes out her unhappiness on others. While I have to maintain civility with her due to work, I'm sure she has no idea that I'm really done w/her as a friend because I gave and gave & got little back from her. It only got worse as the controlling boyfriend succeeded in isolating her from her friends & support system. I DID really try to talk to her a couple times about her attitude and WHY she had been behaving this way. I got shut out because, as I said, she's in denial about this man. She so badly wants to have a guy that she's hanging on to someone who is so toxic & bad for her, all the while pushing those who once cared for her farther & farther away. For me, even if she got rid of the guy today, I doubt that our relationship could ever go back to how good it used to be. I no longer trust her because she had to see that she was treating me badly but cared more about maintaining her relationship with the guy than keeping any of her close friends. I believe in the end, she will have few, if any, friends left. Eventually, she might figure out that this guy is a player & she's in a no-win situation with him. I've held out hope for a long time that she'd see the light w/him but she continues to stay with him. After a while, the once supportive friends find other more healthy friendships. That is what I'm doing now. I found myself walking on eggshells with this woman and I'm sure that's what she's doing with him. I don't need their negative drama in my life. So, for me, no, once I'm totally done with someone, it can never be fully repaired because I never allow myself to be put in the position of more hurt later. To do so (after giving her so many chances) would be foolish on my part.

Should I Attempt to Reconcile in the Future?

I became fast and close friends a little over a year ago with someone who I knew in a very different context about a decade ago. It seemed that we had instant chemistry and we got together regularly and stayed in nearly daily email contact, even though she lives less than 10 minutes away. I also got to know her three children, who I adore. At this time she had just started the process of separation from her husband. Then after about 5 months of what I can only describe is a close friendship where I felt like I could really trust this person and be totally open and honest with her, she told me about her new boyfriend, who she met while separated, but still living with her husband. For the next few months I didn't see her at all and our email conversations were much less frequent, but she said that she loved and missed me and I believed her, despite experiencing a difficult range of emotions having to do with the fact that I had developed other feelings for her (I am gay and she is not, although her behavior towards me has always bordered on flirtatious). I did manage to see her once since finding out about the boyfriend on Valentine's Day, of all days. I helped her move furniture after she had moved to her new house and she talked about all of the things that we would do together in the near future. She even said that she and the kids wanted to have me over within the next week or two. When I got to the point where I realized that I was the only one initiating communication in our friendship and several of my attempts to suggest times to get together were being met by responses such as "I'll have to check", but my now former friend never followed up, I started to get frustrated and ended up writing her what I thought was a kind email, but one that explained some of my frustrations about the friendship and also told her about the difficulty I was experiencing with having developed other feelings for her. She wrote back initially saying that she didn't think she could fight what I was saying and said that she would be sad if I wanted to sever ties with her but she would understand. But then I ended up apologizing and it seemed that we were going to continue being friends - but all of this happened over email, which I now regret, though I don't know how I would have done things differently, considering what she said in some of her later emails... I sent her a card on her birthday, tickets from the organization where I work on multiple occasions, a chatty hand-written letter, and at one point another apology letter for having made her feel like a bad person, even though that was far from my intent. When she received the apology letter she did call, but while I was at work and couldn't talk. The sentence she said to me on the phone was kind, but the follow-up voicemail and emails were filled with excuses and accusations. We continued to interact with sporadic emails having bumped into each other only once at a grocery store within the 4-5 months since I had last seen her. Most of her emails included something about how busy she was and how she didn't have time for anybody or anything except for her boyfriend and children. She said that she didn't initiate in her friendships and was only capable of making plans with her boyfriend and that she didn't talk on the phone or have time for lunch, etc. We had tried at one point to figure out when we could next get together, but after these boundaries she established (she was too busy on weekends, on the one non-weekend day when I don't work and we used to get together, in the evenings, etc.) I simply didn't know how to go about being her friend. I gave her medical advise after learning that she and her boyfriend would be traveling to a country where I had lived for over 7 years. She thanked me but didn't even contact me when she returned. I blocked her on Facebook after seeing a post from another of her female friends commenting on her 200+ trip photos, to which she responded that the friend must come over for lunch soon, since I realized that she was capable of initiating, making plans, and having lunch with other friends. Although she had clearly said to me that it was not at all awkward for her that I had admitted having certain feelings towards her that I was trying my best to ignore, I felt that maybe this was not the case. I blocked rather than de-friended on Facebook since I have on many occasions left Facebook entirely for months on end and felt that it was more likely that she would not notice my absence this way, especially since I had only blocked her for my own sanity, not wanting to see her hundreds of happy trip photos and posts, when all she told me about her trip was that she got sick when she returned and still felt like a failure in her life. All I wanted to do was be there fore her as a friend and have her be there for me. After she told me that she would bring the kids soon to the place where I work, using the tickets I had given her, she did not show up before the tickets expired (they had been good for a year). Then during the holidays I decided not to reach out to her but told myself that I would respond if she ever wrote to me. All I had was silence for the next 2 months. I wrote her one more heartfelt letter that I mailed just after the New Year. In it I thanked her for being in my life but admitted that I wasn't sure whether she was a lifetime friend or one who was in my life for a particular reason. I realize I was probably pretty intense, but I explained that I truly wanted her to be happy and hoped that someday we could be friends and be close again. I told her why I missed our friendship and said that I still thought highly of her and missed her and her kids a lot. I also told her about the unexpected passing of my aunt, which had happened during the holidays, and how I had wanted to much to reach out to her for support but feared that she would not have time for me. I told her about how most of my other local friends had recently moved out of the country or were about to do so. Of course none of these situations were her fault, but I was hoping that she could better understand why I was feeling so lonely and could have used her friendship, if she cared about me or thought of me as a friend. When she had asked me in an email a few months before I wrote the letter how I was doing, I was truthful (she had even told me how important it was to her that I always know that I could be totally open and honest with her) and told her I was going through an especially difficult time. I mentioned having not celebrated my birthday this year because I didn't have anyone to celebrate it with (she had spent my birthday the year prior with me and had written me a beautiful birthday card about how she had hoped we would celebrate many more together and how she thought I was a beautiful person, etc...now I can't even look at the card). She didn't even wish me a happy belated birthday. So in my letter I mentioned some of these things, taking care not to be accusatory in my tone but trying to explain why I was questioning our friendship and wondering if maybe there were hints I should have picked up on a long time ago - like the time we ran into each other accidentally 8 months prior to me writing this letter (which was, incidentally, the last time I actually saw her, despite the fact that we live less than 10 minutes away from each other) and her son looked at me and said something about how they hadn't seen me forever (these were the same kids who my ex-friend told me had said I was the favorite of her friends--now I wonder if she was just being polite) and she then walked away without saying anything... So in response to this letter, which I thought was a last ditch genuine effort to really connect with this person who I cared for so much (and still do, despite my attempts not to), my friend wrote me an email in which she didn't even offer condolences for my newly deceased aunt (despite me telling her how distraught I was over it)...she simply said that she found my letter, like the earlier ones (which included an apology, a birthday card, a chatty letter, and a letter with tickets for the place where I work, which is a place that her children enjoy going to--the children who she says are her only real priority) was self-indulgent and that I was acting like a child and not behaving towards her as a human being. She said that I needed to get help and peace but she would not be the one to do that for me and she ended by asking me not to contact her because she felt that I was harassing her. This ending to our friendship was such a blow and so hurtful, when I sincerely believed that my letter was the only way I knew how to reach out to her, since she had but so many boundaries on any other means of communication. But I also feel like maybe if I had understood earlier how she was feeling and had been less intense, maybe given her more space and stopped trying for some time, she would have started acting as a friend again. It was devastating. Although this happened only 2 months ago and I have no intention of tempting fate and reaching out for a few years, I have already written the email that I would desperately like to send to her in another few years from now - not so long that she forgets me entirely, but maybe in another 2-3 years. I want to tell her that I do have regrets and that I wish I had understood earlier how she was feeling. There is much to say, but I just don't know what if anything she is feeling. Unless she lacks empathy all together and is totally narcissistic (which I realize now is a possibility), I would just like to make some attempt at reconciliation or at the very least closure, which I do not feel like I have now. This friendship and the ending of it haunts me daily and I have to live with this pain that at times feels almost unbearable. All is better with time, I realize, and I do have a wonderful therapist who I started seeing because of this troubled friendship. But I have never before lost a friend to anything except for death, and I do believe that everyone deserves a real second chance (in this case on both her and my side). I love this friend of mine, any past feelings beyond friendship aside--I just want her back in my life and miss her so very much. All of this said, I would so much like to hear what some of you have to say, since I think that Irene and many of the people who write into her blog have a lot of wisdom to share. Be gentle, please. And many thanks in advance for any advice you have to give.

No reconciliation

Hi, this is not meant to be cruel, I'm saying it to be helpful. You haven't known this person long enough to be attempting a reconcilation this much. You are addicted to her. Have you heard of love addiction? It's more common than you think and is nothing to be ashamed of. I think you should check out this forum: http://laarecovery.proboards.com/index.cgi It will open your eyes...and hopefully help you start to heal yourself so that you aren't this devastated by anyone ever again. Chances are things like this happened to you in the past too...maybe less intense, but it's usually a pattern. Good luck to you.

NO reconciliation

Gosh, I am so sick of people jumpiing to these labels. They often falsely pathologize human responses to relationship problems.This is not a case of love addiction. This person had a short but close relationship with this woman, 5 months and lots of contact and sharing personal concerns does that. She is the type that wants to work things out. She's a good person, the type that constantly wants to give the benefit of the doubt and believe there is an explanation for a friend's distance and bad behavior. She takes the intiiative to resolve things. Maybe she should have given up much sooner, but she is one of the good people that can't understand how the other person can be so heartless because she is not that way herself. That is the only realization she should come to. It's not easy to develop closeness with friends the older we get. Remembering the unique bond she shared iwth this person, it is hard for her to believe she would just be dumped, and she probably realizes she might not develop such a bond so easlily with someone else. However, to you poster, realize the good person you are,and don't give up being that. You do need to realize this person's insensitivity toward you, be open to reconciling if SHE initiates since you have done your part, but open and detached about it. This takes practice. Write her a goodby letter but don't send it, it will help you resolve your feelings. Then let destiny take it's course, you have done your part.

NO reconciliation

Hi 'Gosh', I don't think the other commenter is pathologizing at all. This insensitive, ex-friend, asked her not to contact her again. That is a VERY clear boundary she set and one she has a right to place, no matter what. She might be a horrible person, but she is free to be friends or not friends with whoever she pleases. The fact that the poster has already written her a letter to send in a few years shows that the poster (regardless of how good a person she is) is unable to accept that boundary. I realize she doesn't plan to send it now - and probably won't ever...but she is unable to accept that this very short friendship is over. It doesn't matter how close or bonded they became. Female friendships sometimes get very intense. If the other woman specifically stated she doesn't want to be contacted, there is no ambiguity to analyze or be confused about. That is closure. Like it or not. This is not judging the poster. I have no doubt she is a very caring, loyal, and sensitive individual who would bend over backwards for any friend. Unfortunately, none of that matters. It's a painful situation no matter what. But this was not a 10 year friendship and her reaction is not rational. She is way too devastated and I agree (label or not) that she needs to explore this problem within herself further. If not, she's going to wind up hurt again and again.

I feel for her friend, it

I feel for her friend, it would majorly stress me out having such a short-lived friendship turn so intense...my opinion is the poster is in love with her friend..she is experiencing a broken heart...she just sounds so confused.

life is too short (IMO)

Thank you and the previous posters for your responses to my original post about whether or not to attempt reconciliation with my former friend. I have been and will continue to explore the issue of why this particular person continues to mean so much to me. However, with full respect to the previous poster, I am not unable to accept the boundary of no contact. I am respecting this boundary now, have been for the last several months, and plan to continue to do so for the foreseeable future. As I search myself for answers to how this friendship that meant to much to me ended, I have started to empathize a lot more with my former friend and try to see things more from her perspective. In doing this I have acknowledged some of my own insecurities and have started to feel deep regret for not realizing certain things sooner, not being more patient and perhaps driving this friend away when I could have been more compassionate. Do I think she was insensitive? Certainly. But I do not think she is a horrible person. Of course she has every right to reject my friendship, but I suppose I feel like it is important *some day* for her to know that I regret what happened, wish to apologize for my part in what went wrong, and still care about her, even if she has no interest in reestablishing our friendship. Although I knew her 10 years ago you are right, this was not a 10 year friendship. Does that mean that I shouldn't feel devastated that I cannot express what I am feeling to someone who I came to care about very much? If so, I respectfully disagree. I used to live in a situation where it was essential to make friends quickly, because they came and went after only a few months. Some of these people have remained my closest friends and I feel like I would feel pretty terrible if any one of them decided that our friendship was over, especially due to what I believe were largely misunderstandings of tone and intent from relying so heavily on written communication. If I had to do it over again I would have called this friend and asked to talk to her, even though she had said before that she never had time to talk on the phone. Or I would have found some way to talk to her face to face, even though this was one of my biggest issues with the friendship to begin with. I disagree that a one year friendship must necessarily be considered any less meaningful or worth resurrecting than a 10 year one. I think it is what is in the hearts and minds of the two parties involved that counts. In my case I fear that this friend did not find our connection as meaningful as I did and that is simply a painful reality that I must accept. But it doesn't make me want to reconcile any less or yearn to reestablish a friendly connection to this person. It is beyond painful to know that someone who matters so much to me (whether they still should or not) seems to care so little about me. Then again you never know if this is true unless someone makes the first gesture towards possible reconciliation. But thank you for the feedback - it will keep me from doing anything impulsive in the immediate future and I can always re-evaluate how I feel at some point in the more distant future. I just wish so much that it didn't have to come to this. Life is too short to live with such regrets. At least that has always been my philosophy. I can't help but reflect on the fact (and be a little sad that I believe my hands are tied in this situation) that today is April 2 - in 1989 Ann Landers dubbed it "Reconciliation Day". There is a similar day in South Africa on December 16. I guess I prefer to live with hope rather than feel like I have lost this person for good. If this makes me pathological, so be it.

life is too short response

"If I had to do it over again I would have called this friend and asked to talk to her, even though she had said before that she never had time to talk on the phone. Or I would have found some way to talk to her face to face, even though this was one of my biggest issues with the friendship to begin with. "

I think you know deep down that you didn't actually 'lose' this person, but that you never 'had' this person in the first place. A friend who doesn't have time to talk on the phone or see you in person isn't much of a friend. This is likely what triggered your deep attachement to her, nonetheless. If you continue to live with hope, you are keeping yourself from growing and moving on. When somebody asks you to no longer contact them, there is no room for hope - no matter how far in the future. She could have asked for some space, time, or even ignored you. But she didn't - she asked you to stop contacting her. Yes, it is incredibly painful and you need to deal with that pain. But keeping hope alive for your own immediate comfort is only drawing out this deep-seated issue even more. It's time to face the pain completely and start to heal. Best of luck to you.

Wow, great advice

I got wrapped up in reading these comments even though they are not the original post. This was really well said. I can relate to this poster and her attachment issues. It sucks!

Wow of responses.... That's

Wow of responses.... That's a hard one for me. I think I too would hear them out but Ive been hurt so badly by my ex friend that I don't think I could forgive her. It would to be a major revelation as to why she dumped me to warrant a sympathetic ear from me. Fine line of love and hate..... I feel quite odd confessing this but my anger towards her has probably turned into real hate for how she treated me. Is that terrible? I don't really hate yet find it very hard to forgive the person who caused my heart to ache and the tears and feelings of insecurity. I don't know. I would listen definitely- once too but to actually try and get the friendship back.... How can you trust after something so hurtful? It's like an ex who dumped me I wouldn't go back to a boyfriend who dumped me so viciously- why would I choose to go back to a friend y'know?

Well you won't know till you

Well you won't know till you try

If I got dumped by a friend

If I got dumped by a friend who then wanted to reconcile----- I would never ever go back to them. I wld hear them out once sure but then politely decline. I'd imagine the hurt they put me through when they dumped me would give me enough to never risk being hurt by them ever again. Reconcile no- it's just a cheap way of them making themselves feel better and very little to do with genuine caring towards you. I wouldn't go near them. Leper is what they should be. Once they hurt you like that they will do it again. Move away and on to other people worth knowing

dumped

Isn't that a bit harsh? I have lowered respect for those who have ve dumped me but I might consider reconciling if the explanation and apology were able to convince me the person has changed.

Ladies, Stop Beating Yourselves

up. I've read through these posts. After having read the ones between Lacole and Glady, wow! I recently had to totally distance myself from a friend. She was one of these controller types, she'd call you on your cell and have you for a long run venting only problems about how she'd lost her home. I never got a word in edge wise. I did feel for her as I would for anyone, going through something as such. But also truth be told, this friend had already taken some serious gambles with her money, didn't have a nine to five, so who under those circumstances isn't going to lose their home. Of course, she was really arguing all of the facts that have been going on w/the economy, banks etc. Anyway, I eventually grew very drained at having to hear this, and only this kind of conversation. Most of the while, she barely would ask me about what was going on in my life. Or, even when she did, conversation immediately went back to her issues. I finally had to ask myself, "what the heck is up w/you, that you feel this need to be in touch with this person?' Anyway, she also really crossed some boundaries w/me, that was the icing on the cake. So for me, I decided to end the friendship, no explaining, since as I've stated before it's so hard to have her REALLY listen, she wants to talk incessantly. But in both your cases while you are still entertaining the idea that it sounds like both of you were annoyed enough w/your friends. Regardless, for what ever reason it is, sounds like these are terrible candidates for friends. Both of you have in good faith tried to allow them to say their piece, and on that note that's real noble of both of you, but I think one has to also be the nicest to oneself, and say, "I'm worth way more than this, and I'm going to stop being the one who always pursues these kind of people." I too, recently passed the neighborhood where ex-friend lives, & missed a bit being able to stop by for a visit and coffee. But when I thought about other things in the past friendship, I got over it so fast! So be strong! Best Wishes!

Hi..you make some great

Hi..you make some great points and Im glad you sound like your 100% at peace with how things turned out for you...for me...its not so much that Im hurt over the loss of the friendship, its that Im more unsure about whether standing up for myself or not when all this happened a week ago was the right decision. I can walk away from this friendship and be ok, ..Im not even upset that I let her know I was ok with her being at dinner, at least she knows I was willing, BUT I dont want to regret how I handled things after...bottom line, is it better to speak up or shut up with people like this? Would anything I say have mattered, does it bother her more I have kept quiet???

It all comes down to having faith

in yourself, your value system and priorities in life and knowing that you are acting with integrity. If interactions with a friend are such that you end up second guessing every action, every gesture made then that friendship is not feeding your soul--quite the opposite. For everything we do in this life we can find someone who will suggest they would have done it differently. Why have regret over a simple good faith gesture? Her response should only serve as further confirmation that there is no common ground for a healthy friendship with this person. I'm just speaking from my own perspective, but the older I get the less time and interest I have in any friendship that is all about the drama. My advice to you Lacole is to move on--I really don't see how any good will come from trying to fit this square peg friend into a round hole.

dumped by friend.

If it's number two perhaps you can rekindle the friendship. It's hard to say because you haven't mentioned the why of the dump, how it happened, the depth of remorse she has for hurting you, etc

I think you are setting yourself up for more hurt.

Right now, at this moment, you have the power to start healing for the so called friend. Instead of hoping for some illusion of what you thought the so called friend, you should eleiminate her from your life by breaking all contact. Meet new people, get a fresh start and look forward not backwards at something that isn't going to work. The so called friend is already dictating the so called terms of the so called friendship. Take the power back completely by rejecting her on any terms and kicking her to the curb like yesterday's soda pop can and moving forward.

I think if you were never super close then it is possible....

I think like others said.. If you were really close and then fall out, especially for a good amount of time it will never be the same. Once you lose trust and faith in a friend, I think you just see them in a different light. That is how I feel. It has been really Hard for me to have a downgraded friendship, but maybe when the hurt feelings go away it is possible?

What part of trust and faith do you mean?

Are you referring to you'll never know when the friend tries to put conditions on the relationship again or threaten and ultimatum?

I think Lacole's last point

I think Lacole's last point is the part that I can't get over. When you at one point trusted a friend more than anyone else, and you no longer can believe they will be there for you, it is over. I think reconciling would be helpful in just knowing how your friend is doing. But, you can never reclaim what you once had.

Agree

That is how I feel about my former friend. The thing is, I don't think she knows that I consider her a former friend and that actually is beneficial for me because I don't want any conversations with her about our relationship - not unless she would come to me and show some remorse for her past behavior and have gotten rid of the guy. There is no room in her life for me as long as she has a guy who is jealous of her friends. He's even jealous of her kids, but she won't give them up. Friends are a different matter though. So, in some ways, IF my friend would want to become close again, that would be on her terms really. I'm not saying I would tell her that things were over--I would just no longer pursue the friendship. In other words, SHE would have to do most of the work because I certainly have done most of the work in the friendship thus far. She took my friendship for granted and sadly that takes a toll on the friendship. It's sometimes pointless to think that things could ever be really good once you realize how little you were thought about from the beginning. I seriously doubt that my ex-friend will come to me for any forgiveness because she's really good at blaming others for her own faults and bad decisions. She's too high & aloof to even admit she needs some therapy or counseling. Until she hits rock bottom, there is not even a remote possibility for any kind of relationship w/her again. I've just let her go and it's been a difficult and painful process for me because I never dreamed things would turn out the way they have. She allowed our friendship to be trashed due to a man--something that I would never ever tolerate in my own dating relationships.

Your right...the "old"

You're right...the "old" friendship can never be reclaimed. Now, is it possible to have some sort of friendship, I guess so. But I know for me, I will never trust my friend again. She told me for years how much I ment to her, how much the friendship ment to her, blah, blah, blah.....either she was lying, saying what she thought I wanted to hear, or her feelings have changed..whatever the reason, I cant ever belevie in her like I once did. I can be cordial and friendly, but never best friends again, never close.

This is Glady....posting to this thread

Hi, everyone. I have posted here several times about my former close friend who downgraded me - suddenly, and with no explanation - several years ago. And her erratic hot and cold behavior since then. We are part of a larger group of friends, so we have had to find a way to socialize in the group, etc. Last night (I think she had been drinking) she called me out of the blue and demanded to know "when we were going to move past this weirdness between us." I was speechless. I told her that if she wanted to meet and talk, I would be open to that. She then says that she only wants to talk if she knows I am interested in being a close friend again, if I think our friendship can return to where it was years ago. I told her I could not promise that., but she seems willing to meet anyway. We are supposed to meet to talk tomorrow. I don't think I want to renew this friendship - how do you say that in a way that is not unkind and cruel? I am very nervous about meeting her tomorrow. Her behavior seems very erratic to me. Any advice? Ack! Glady

Hi Glady....I think you need

Hi Glady....I think you need to meet with her just to see what she has to say and have a chance to ask her all the questions that have been in your head over the years...If she starts to get defensive and demanding, politely excuse yourself and tell her you were only open to talk if things were calm and mature. See what she has to say, and make no promises. If you are comfortable, just take things slow and see how things progress. Im concerned over her demanding to get the friendship back as it was, but, maybe she over spoke?? Now is your chance to control the situation, say and make the choices that are best for you. I cant wait to hear what happens...

Hi, Lacole!

Lacole, I did meet with my ex friend and it went better than I thought it might. Interestingly enough, she did not realize how thoroughly she had cut me off. She thought it was more of a distancing. She had felt I was not listening to her....she may have had a point....but it sure would have been easier if she had just said something to me instead of cutting off all contact. Regardless of whether she believes she totally cut me off or not, I think she now does understand how hurt and upset I was. We talked through what each of us had been feeling, and I at least got to say some things I had been wanting to say. She is eager to return the friendship to its earlier state. I said I could not predict the future...this was a good first step, but that I was open to keeping the lines of communication open. I think at least things will be easier in group situations, which is a relief to me. And I think we can be friendlier in general. But I doubt we will ever be close friends again. Trust is such a hard thing to rebuild. And quite honestly, distance has made me realize what a demanding and bossy friend she was. I am all set with that! That said, I do feel better and I am glad we spoke. Only time will tell if she really meant what she said. Thanks for your support, Lacole! All best, Glady

Hi Glady...its sounds like

Hi Glady...its sounds like it went as well, if not better then expected. Most importantly, you were able to find some peace in the whole situation and worse case scenario, if you dont ever get close again, you were finally able to say all you wanted, she no longer ever has to wonder the effect it all had on you. Just remember that you are in control now, only move forward in ways that feel right for you and dont buckle to her pressure of any kind....Im proud of you!!!...on a personal note..I will see my ex-bff tomorrow at an event..first time in months and months !!! Im full of anxiety!!..Im afraid of sitting there alone looking sad and alone...I want her to think Im doing great!! More to come Im sure.;)

Hey Lacole...

I've read your other posts here. No matter, what your ex-friend thinks, I think you are doing great! Just remember, you shouldn't sit there feeling sad if you are by yourself, because you are sitting with a terrific person (YOU!). Good luck!

Well...it was uneventful

Well...it was uneventful tonight....I saw my friend, Im sure she saw me..no words were spoken. I chatted with her son for awhile, but that was it....If nothing else, she knows Im not afraid to be were she is, Im not intimidated or scared...

Good for you lacole

You went, you saw your ex friend, you did not chase after your ex friend, begging for her attention (not that you would do that, might be something I would have been tempted to do, however). You did not skip the event, and you were gracious enough to speak with her son. I think you are doing GREAT. Hang in there. Glady

This is lacole

Hi Glady....I would have said hello had she been in ear shot, but she wasnt and I wasnt seeking her out. Its all so difficult still almost a year later...on a different note, any word from your friend since your last talk??

Hi Glady..one more note...

about your comment regarding chasing your friend. Funny you say that because in the past that is exactly what I would have done. Call, send cards, etc. I needed the friendship so badly, and afraid to lose it that I did this all the time when we had an argument or slight disagreement. I havnt done that this time and I think that is one thing that has really thrown her for a loop. She liked when I chased her, it validated her.

This is Glady

Lacole, it has been radio silence since my ex bff and I spoke on Sunday. I sent her an email yesterday thanking her for her time and her willingness to talk things through. No response. Can't say I am surprised. And I think I am relieved. I certainly was not ready to go back to being close friends. It will be interesting to see what happens. Actions always speak louder than words! At least for now, I just really don't care anymore. Hope you are doing well. Glady

Hi Lacole, Another Thought

Ok, now that I am thinking about it, and being honest with myself, and I cannot believe I am going to say this, but I am disappointed that I have not heard any sort of response from my ex-friend since we spoke in person on Sunday. Crazy. I told myself not to expect anything. In fact, I thought i did not WANT to hear from her a lot. But now that she has not responded at all, I feel like I am back where I started. I guess not totally back, but it does make me wonder about her real motivations. I think her wanting to speak with me in person was much more about her wanting to feel in control of the situation - to be able to show mutual friends that she had reached out to me -- than about realizing how much she had hurt me and wanting to sincerely make amends. I can't believe I still care. And maybe she will reach out soon. I guess it does show you that the trust, the relationship can never really be rebuilt. Or if it is to be rebuilt, it will require a lot of work on the part of the "dumper." I just don't think my ex friend is interested in putting any real work into this. If she can't fix it quickly, she is not interested. Like I said, I can't believe that there is part of me that still cares. Will I ever learn. Sigh. Glady

You demonstrated a lot of class and maturity and how you handled

things is a testament to your maturity level. Just make sure to be firm and keep your resolve in that you need to protect your emotions going forward. Stay the course and don't veer back into getting hurt. Don't feel like you need her friendship. What's done is done and you have the power to master your own destiny and develop new more fulfilling and true friendships!

This is lacole

Hi Anonymous...I really wanted her to see that I was there...unafraid to see her and not avoiding things for her sake. I am feeling abit down today, just talking to my husband knowing how sad all this has been. The effects this whole fall out has had on other "connecting" friendships...so much has changed. I am at peace knowing I tried to contact her, most recently this past xmas with a card (no response) and a text (responding to a blank text from her) and nothing back from her at all...The door is open to talk to her, but she needs to make a true and sincere effort. Thx for your words, they are reassuring and Im sure I will look back on them when I need a boost!!

No need to thank anyone here, we all have felt the pain of

bad friendships and its best to share thoughts and emotions. Don't dwell too much on the door is open thought. Yes it is but you need not stare at it and wait for her to show up. The power is in your hands to just let this be the past and move forward. Trust me, do that and you will be so happy and later think back and laugh at the whole incident. But you will also feel you have evolved so much as to the true meaning of friendship and realize hers was fickle and certainly not at the level that even deserves to be labled as freindship. Real true riends should be like close family in my opinion. If its not at that level its not deep enough.

Anonymous, Glady and others..I NEED YOUR ADVICE!!!

I am so upset today and hurt beyond words. I have been crying all afternoon and cannot stop but for a minute or two....This is what happened today....my husband and I have mutual friends that are also friendly with my ex-bff and her husband, we introduced them some years ago...my husband only recently told them about the falling out that my ex-bff and I had last year. Well, the mutual friends wanted to plan a dinner for all of us to get together, I talked to him today and told him that I was ok if he wanted to extend an invite to my ex-bff and her husband. Even though we havnt talked in quite awhile, I wanted her to know that I was ok with seeing her and maybe it would be a fresh start, if nothing else, a fun night out with a group of friends...well he sent her a text and she seemed surprised at first that I was ok with it, and then my ex-bff called our other friend. Basically told him that although she enjoyed his/wifes company, she was done with me and any possible friendship with me. She brought up things that happened years ago that seemed resolved and long forgotten about. She told him her side of recent events that were not completely truthful. From what I understand, he kindly told her that he wanted to stay out of it and that was it. Im angry for so many reasons...angry that she positioned me to look so awful in front of our good friend, she embarrassed me , Im angry that I allowed her to hurt me once again and sucker punch me. I didnt talk ill of her to our friend, I didnt think it was right and thought it would make me look imature and bad in the long run, nor did I think he wanted to get involved. Why did I allow this to happen, opened the door wide for so much hurt and upset from her..I dont know what to do. Part of me wants to call her and tell her how awful she is/was, point out every thing she has done, but then the other part is telling me to ignore it, dont give her the satisfaction? If I call her, I may end up involving my mutual friend and I dont want to do that, wouldntbe fair..but shouldnt she know how awful she has been, how hurtful and mean??

Hi to all to provided such great advice

the past few days...Thursday and Friday were very difficult for me...I felt like a wound I had worked so hard to heal this past year was ripped open and the bad feelings were overwhelming...Im feeling better today. Beleive it or not, I had actually contemplated calling her and letting her know how upset this past few days were, how she should have called me and not jumped to conclusions after talking to our mutual friend, how I really had hoped we could find ourselves at a better place ..etc....etc...BUT, decided in the end this was a bad idea. It would only give her more power by thinking maybe I felt so sorry that I needed to call or she was even worth a call and the respect that went along with it...I know that it sends a stronger message by NOT calling. The rawness of the day will wear off for everyone and she will see that any reaction she may end up hoping for from me is not coming her way, no calls, texts, etc. The dinner out with everyone is in a month and the invite wont be extended again to her, we will go and have a great time. I think she spoke too quickly, made decisions very hastily and cant take those words back without looking foolish. As another poster said, Im sure I havnt heard the last from her...anyone want to offer thier opinion on that conclusion???

Hi again everyone...

As you can imagine, the events from last week are still keeping me tossing and turning at night sometimes. I hate to admit it, but the whole thing has just really bothered me. I know that the advice I have recieved thus far has told me NOT to reach out to my ex-bff and give her a reaction, but if I didnt anything wrong, which is contrary to what she was told last week, why wouldnt I want to call and defend myself, clear my name?? I feel like by not calling her to discuss, that it may be interpreted that Im guilty, not wanting to be questioned by her, afraid I dont have the answers, which isnt the case. I dont think in the end I will get what I want, but how can I not try and speak up for me?? Does NOT giving her a call send a greater message??

Hi Kathy and others....

I think I need to call her for me. Whether she appreciates the call or not I cant be concerned with. I will call her calmly and with no defensivness in my voice. I want her to know that my intentions around the dinner were sincere and it was coming from a good place. That dispite what has happened with us, I wanted her and her husband to know they where welcome at the dinner . I will not bring up details or talk about anything my friend said. I wil mention a text exch we had after thanksgiving, as according to my husband, she seemed to be bothered by my "tone" in the text and again, want her to know it was ment with only good intentions and that I wished she had let me know she was upset by it. I want her to know that it would be nice if we found ourselves at a better place in 2012 then where we were in 2011. No expectations, just a better place. Be friendly and be able to say hi and and wish the other best when we saw eachother. I will callher maybe next week sometime, as its only been a week since the incident and her emotions may still be raw. If she never talks to be again, at least she knows I hold no resentment, dont want to go backwards and wish her the best. What do you think???

Just an update...

Hi everyone...I have continued to give some thought to calling my ex-bff and extending some sort of olive branch while clearing up issues...BUT...decided at this point, Im staying quiet. WHY???...at this point she knew I was open to seeing her at dinner and for some reason things got lost in translation while she was talking with our mutual friend and rather then her call me and discuss, she chose to "unload" on our friend and said some pretty awful things about me. I dont think this was fair at all, to our friend or to me. I was a really good friend to her for years, and whatever she said to him, true comments or not, it was not nice. In addition, its my husband that she chooses to vent to about a text exchange between her and I months ago, my thought, if it was bothering her that much that it was worth mentioning to my husband, then shame on her for never saying anything to me, she has no one to blame but herself, all it would have taken was a five minute call to me or even a text back asking about it...I just cant put myself out there again now. As much as I want to call and defend myself and by not doing so, it may portray me as weak or guilty, I think saying nothing may send a bigger message to her over time. I do think she feels as though she has "won" this game that she seems to love to play, I think if the roles were reversed, she would have called and defended herself days ago, if not the same night it all happened, and I do feel like that fact that Im not speaking up tells her she was right and I was out of line somehow. I need to get by that feeling and not sure how. But calling her now and being even the least bit nice given the hurt she caused that night would please her so much and only show her how much power and control she has over me....Honest advice/thoughts please???

Hi Lacole.....This is Kathy

You have to listen to yourself, and if this is how you feel then that is what is right for you!! She brings up to much chaos in your life and after this amount of time that has gone by you two should of been able to work things out.....to me it's time to let her go for yourself and move on!! It's strange how two people can be the best of friends until there is a conflict.....They all the sudden forget how to talk to one another and some choose to talk to other people instead.....I understand this, I've been there....I would let her go if I felt I couldn't talk this out with her.....She might of been and ok friend at one time but now your friendship has become unhealthy. What is a friendship if you can't even talk to each other. You don't feel excited to see her and I don't hear a lot of joy when you talk about her.....I feel you tried to work this out in a indirect way and the only other option would be to deal with it directly which you don't seem to want to do. You know her so obviously you feel it isn't worth your time and your probably right!! When I say let it go....I mean stop trying to figure out what to do and how to handle it....Let what will be ...be. I wouldn't even waste my time with being mad or upset.....she said her peace and now you know how she feels and she isn't making and effort so obviously this is how she wants things to be.....before you would be the peace maker or fix it person and now you are know longer willing to do that and that is why this is still a problem..... You stood up for yourself, and sometimes things don't alway turn out the way you hoped but the way they are suppose too!! This friend hasn't been a very good friend all along and the only thing that has changed is your not willing to take it anymore (which is a good thing) and she isn't willing to meet you half way!! So it's time to wish each other well and go about your business....I wouldn't hate her I would be glad you don't have to deal with her anymore because she has shown her true self and she isn't friendship material, you deserve better!! To me your ex bff took care of this situation when she talked to your friend and she made it clear how she felt....

Hi Kathy...

You are right, I need to let go. I need to stop trying to figure it all out...easier said than done. With my ex-bff, she always had to have the last word and when she couldnt you got the silent treatment, she always made you feel like she was superior, had the control and power in the friendship. I hated that! And now the worst is knowing she again had the last word. I wanted to call and clarify things with her, but rather then focus on my feelings she will turn the tables, tell me Im still looking for drama and this is why things are as they are...always my fault. I guess just once, I wanted to have the last say!..silly, but Im sure you get what Im mean. If nothing else, I can console myself knowing she has MANY issues and I guess this is why she is how she is. But still hurts and I need to let it go. Thx...

lacole

You are endearing with how much you go back and forth with this :) This Very human lol... Therefore are good reasons to both communicate or not communicate. Hang in there. I would say follow your heart but your heart is torn. I feel like that sometimes too!

lacole

Sounds like a good plan!

lacole

I think it depends on the person wether to stay quiet or defend oneself. I am the type who ends up having to carry around the negative feelings when I don't defend myself and it doesn't feel good. With some people they are so off base that I believe they aren't worth it. In your situation I would want to call her out on what she said. The thing is that you must be able to stay level headed and stick to the facts. For example, "so and, so told me that you said such and such and I was very hurt. The reason why I asked you to dinner is that I thought we might be able to move on from our past problems . Did you say such and such? I would really like to get straight on what's going on."! If she gets to blaming and defensiveness do you have the skills and personality to keep the conversation on track?

What I would avoid...

The thing I would avoid here is pulling your mutual friend in the middle of this. I know your ex-bff went to the mutual friend and told him things about you, but you also said the mutual friend told her he wanted to stay out of it. If you go to her and said "He told me you said this...", I think you are at the risk of pulling him back into it and making him uncomfortable. You don't want to put that friendship in jeopardy. I think it is OK to tell her something like "I understand you don't want to come to dinner with us because you are no longer interested in a friendship with me." and then ask her if she would explain her reasonings to you. Then you can have a conversation based on the things she says to you, not what you heard from someone else. Otherwise, I have to say in all frankness that I wonder why you are so concerned with what she thinks or says about you? From some of the stories you've told about her, I'm not so sure she is worth it.

Lacole....This is a tough one....

I think the real problem comes in when it involves your husband as well as mutual friends. I get the idea that you would let go of this friendship if she didn't still communicate with your husband and mutual friends like nothing has happened between the two of you. Then when she was invited to go out to dinner she doesn't want to go because she isn't friends with you anymore, but she doesn't have a problem still associating with your husband and mutual friends of yours that you introduced her too. I would probably have a talk with her at this point....I agree with this poster to make the conversation about the two of you and don't involve anyone else. I would try and work it out first not so you could be good friends again but so that you could coexist in the same town. Your situation is complicated...I would probably want to keep the peace and have a surface relationship. Hi and bye when you see her just so things aren't as uncomfortable. I do believe you should stand up for yourself but only if you can do it in a calm manner. You've come a long way Lacole and I think you need to handle this the way you feel is best for you!! Kathy

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