Needy Friends: A Friend Indeed?

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There are some friends who feel like an emotional ball and chain. They’re always in need of one thing or another: money, favors, help, coddling, praise---or simply more time than you have to give.

Like a wailing toddler, they can be so demanding that their friendship tires you and weighs you down. Who needs that kind of friend? Many women do.
  • People who like feeling needed---or once liked the feeling (even if they don’t anymore)
  • People who feel like they aren’t worthy of healthier, more balanced relationships
  • People who are stuck---either feeling angry or sorry for their needy friend---and feel unable to get out of it
But if you have begun to recognize that a female friendship is a drag, you’ve taken the first step in relieving yourself of the burden.

HOW-TO UNLOAD:
  • Change the nature of your friendship by learning to say “no” and setting boundaries (e.g. “Even though we are both single, I don’t want to spend every Friday night together.”)
  • Tell her that you have to tend to your own needs (or those of anyone else you can think of)
  • Slip away - Spend less time with her and add other less demanding friends to your inventory
  • Take a relationship sabbatical or hiatus from the friendship (you deserve it!)
  • If it's that bad, simply cut loose!
Remember, the term toxic friendships refers to relationships that are consistently negative and draining. It is the pattern, not the one-time or occasional lapses in the balance of needing that occurs between good friends. If your truly needy friend has been that way for some time, the real possibilities of changing the relationship verge on hopeless.

These are people whose needs can never be satiated. No matter what you give, what you do, how much, or how often, it will never be enough. Since character tends to endure, this person probably treats other people the same way she treats you. It’s likely that many of her friends have probably already dropped out of the picture and that’s why she is so dependent on you.
 

Another Perspective

I have often heard and read about "needy" or emotionally draining friendships. While I do not support people who use friends or are financially dependent on their friends, I do have to speak up for the people who go to friends to vent, cry or share the details about their crises to a friend. Remember that there are people who have gone through really traumatic experiences such as: rape, murder of a loved one, victim or a crime, divorce, infidelity or other betrayal, etc. Some people just have it harder in life and I think we need to remember that. I have experienced some of the crises I listed above and I can tell you that I would have preferred not to have the experience in the first place instead of dishing to a friend about it. Before judging your friends, ask yourself: "Have I been through went my friend is experiencing?" If you haven't, then think very carefully before you judge, as you don't know how you would react. You may have been an even worse emotional trainwreck. Even if your friend seems to be upset over something that seems insignificant, it could be that they have endured other harrowing experiences that they haven't told you about and they just want things to go smoothly for a change. I'm a pretty charitable person, so I don't mind being there for friends in need. There are billions of people on this planet and very few people who actually love you and will be there for you when you are at your worst. An acquaintance tried to commit suicide a few years ago. No one knew he was so troubled. He was quiet and he never shared his sadness or depression with anyone. Perhaps, if he were not afraid of being "needy" or "emotionally draining" or some other label, we would have been able to help him earlier. Think before judging. You may be saving someone's life without even knowing it.

I have a similar problem

I have a similar problem which I have tried to solve over the last two years but it hasn't worked and now I don't know how to proceed. Our friendship started off great, but then he got a crush on me which turned into love and was not reciprocated. He was under the impression that I should love him and date him just because he really loved me, and when I rejected him he took it very badly.
We remained friends and now he says he doesn't love me anymore but he has remained incredibly needy. He has no other friends, doesn't try to make new friends and ignores his family. I feel quite trapped because he makes contact with all of my friends and this makes me not want to vent to them about him. Now he is in severe financial difficulty, all of his own making, and he wants me to help him out. I don't want to and I have told him this, but his solutions for survival seem to be to get me to give him money or to move in with me to save costs. If I had to have him around me all the time I think I would have a breakdown.

not sure on this FRIENDSHIP

I have a friend I very much care about. I like spending time with her, but since she got married not long ago things have changed. She is currently unemployed and I became unemployed recently. She likes coming over to my place which I don't mind and I enjoy her company, but one thing that stops me from inviting her over is that she always wants to stay over for dinner or lunch, and when it is time to leave she insists that I drop her off at the bus stop (by walking, I don't drive). This was all very well in the beginning and I was happy to go along with her, but recently I feel I need to have time more to myself to figure out what I want from life. Her outlook in life is kind of gloomy and insists that she is being realistic and that I am the naieve one. I am a very independent person and enjoy different people's company, I like doing things and going out and having a good time and generally be positive about everything, and I manage to do this although I don't have a job. However when my friend is around she prefers to stay at my place all day long, we can't go out. And when we do go out she is without money and I end up paying for her lunch or anything else that she may need and never pays me back. I even raised the issue of the money that she owes me, but she weasels her way out of it. I don't expect anything from her anymore. I care about our friendship, but recently I just feel I am bogged down around her and our friendship is one sided. It has become regular of her to expect of me to provide food for her when we go out, I just feel like telling her that I'm not your husband. Like the others on this forum, I am a quiet, shy person and am constantly aware and sensitive to others emotions. I have very few friends. I try to distance myself from her but I don't want to lose her because she is my closest friend, but I don't want to be used either. I am writing here because Im not sure how I feel about her and I need some outside opinions, because I just find it hard to believe my friend for a long time could be manipulating me. Maybe if I get some views I could look at it from a different point of view which I can't do right now. So please tell me what you think.

Emotionally-Energy Draining Friendship

While my situation is not as intense as most, I thought this would be a good place to vent. About three years ago, I became friends with my nextdoor neighbor. She is very nice and has a good heart. But as time went on, her life drama and crises became more and more frequent and I was the one she called to "vent". And she would push and push for us to get together. (And just FYI, I am a bit of a loner and don't think I have ever once felt lonely, I love the peace and serenity that comes from being alone.) She also was pushing me to become more involved in issues that were important to her. Being a Small Business owner and recently becoming caretaker for my mother, I don't have the energy or the time for a lot of the things that I used to. All of my other friends get this about me and they understand it and know that I will ALWAYS be there for them and I know they will ALWAYS be there for me as well, no matter if we speak everyday or once in a few months or more. Anyway, over the last month and a half or so, I have been trying to distance myself from her little by little... trying to explain that business has gotten busy and my mother has been taking a lot of my time and energy (which are both actually true). I have been doing this because I just cannot stand that every single day she is calling me and crying and/or whining about how something in her life is in crisis (usually, something very minor, at least to me anyway). She drains all of my energy everytime we talk or get together. Now, don't get me wrong, she has also been very supportive of me when I run into a rough patch, however, I am a very strong, independent and positive person, so my rough patches are few and far between. I spoke with her on Friday and she asked what I was doing that evening. I told her I was going to the dentist and coming home to catch up on some work. I also explained to her that my business was growing and I probably was going to have less and less time available for get togethers (I tried to say this as pleasantly and diplomatically as possible). She immediately said she had to get off the phone. She called me later and left me a message (in tears of course). She said she was tired of "hitting a wall" and being told that I was too busy. That she thought that she had done a good job trying to be supportive of my life and my dreams but know she's not sure. She said she is going to "back-off" and if I wanted to call her, I was more than welcome, but she would not be calling me. It seemed to me that she was trying to say that I have not been a very good friend to her. Well, I think I have been a GREAT friend to her and putting up with all of her obsessiveness and negativity. So, now I am just plain angry that she could even say these things to me!!! But at the same time, it's making me doubt my values and integrity of being a friend to others. In addition to being a "loner", I am also a conflict avoider. As much as I would like to call this person and let her know just what I'm thinking of her, I know I won't. Don't know if this will be the end of the friendship, but i do know that no matter what I do or don't do is never enough for her and I'm tired of trying!!! Thanks for letting me vent!!!!

a great friend

I think you need to think about what you want. You wanted her to call less. She's promised not to call, and to let YOU be the one who decides it all. You call when you want to, now, period. What she said was that you're "more than welcome to call her." But she's not going to call you anymore. Hooray! You got exactly what you wanted. No more annoying calls, AND you didn't have a fight or lose a friend over it. So what's the problem here? You're thinking of calling her and "telling her what you think of her?" You don't think she already knows? You don't think that's what she was crying about? She correctly read between your lines and recognized that you don't want her friendship, that you think she's needy and negative and not worth your time. So what's making you angry? Is it that for the first time in the relationship, you don't feel superior to her? Her pattern of calling you most likely affirmed for both of you, that you're independent and she's needy. That put you in a superior position. I'll bet you never call her. I'll bet that on those occasions when she resolves to make no requests, no complaints, you cut the call very short. I'll bet that when she's called sounding happy and wanted you to go somewhere, to take the friendship to more positive ground, you've begged off. You're like the thief who isn't sorry he stole, but is enraged that he got caught. How dare she "say those things" she didn't say? How dare she be the one to end the situation, instead of dangling on your hook forever? And worst of all, she did it NICELY! You WERE a bad friend to her. You still are. You're angry because she noticed, and did the healthy, honest, and mature thing. She left it up to you whether things are going to change in your friendship or not. She owned her half of the problem. In one move, she stopped being reassuringly inferior and dumpable for you, and also ended your illusion of superiority over her.

Needy colleague

I just recently discovered a needy person on my job. She's a nice person, but when she comes around the atmosphere immediately turns into gloom and doom. I happen to be a positive person and I know some people draw from this in me, but sometimes it's more work for me than you think. I sometimes want to go straight to my office and start working without any interruptions, unless it pertains to work. If I don't speak to her right away she gets mad. If I don't run up to her with a happy face she thinks something is wrong. If I'm being quiet, which is usually how I work, then something must be wrong. I made the mistake of buying her lunch one day and ever since then she hints around for me to buy her lunch. I hate it when someone takes my kindness for granted. If I do something for you it's because I want to. But, don't expect this all the time. I am a loner who hardly ever feels alone. And if I do feel alone I know how to invite people in without expecting them to be there or else. I just wish people understood that not all people need to have people around all the time. And, if you feel worse during and after being around someone, then it's time for you to move on. People will either add to your life, or take from it. The question you need to ask yourself is, what are your friendships to you, not them?

needy friends

Womens lives are crazy busy lives and families do require work and time but ya know good friends will invite good friends partly into their families as an extension of the family. Eventually, children grow up and often move far away when this happens their Moms are going to want friends who know their kids to fill in the gap and be interested in hearing about how these flown the coop kids are. Maybe your perception of neediness is not as accurate as it may seem to you because of how time flies with life being so busy. I had a nightmare friendship forced on me in HS. It was either have the phone thrust at me every 9 min. for the 60th time or give in as I was not allowed to disconnect all the phones in the house to get some peace. She would not take no for an answer. She lied about her Mom attacking her which I could understand why her Mom might get up set with her. She had begun attending my Church. I am stand offish because in my ending the relationship my best friends cut me off in her support. I am traumatized after seventeen years still. I have an aquaintaince or two but never can seem to reach out. I did about a year ago and got slaped in my face as needy after what only four meetings in three months from a boorish motor mouth. I feel like you guys put the bar really low for neediness. Nice people reach out to other women not lucky enough to have such great lives as you portray. You don't nit pick reasons to judge others as needy. I heard from Readers Digest that women who center their lives all around work and kids are the dysfunctional one. Don't judge least you be judged.

lack of education

So if you are not content in your life maybe you could take an adult education class and learn how to write in English. Look, I don't speak or write absolutely in absolutely perfect grammar but the wording at least makes sense. This post was perfectly reasonable and understandable. You wouldn't be so defensive if you weren't one of these psychic vampires yourself, which you obviously are. Get a life.

Thanks for sharing your insight, Haukku~

Sounds like you are in touch with your feelings and have a plan to handle them!

 

Best,

Irene

Thank you very much for the

Thank you very much for the excellent and useful subject.

Needy-Intrusive-Unaware, Overbearing-Vampiric People!

Indeed, the friend moving across the street takes the cake! I've met sooooooooo many people like this. (Not sure why my paragraphs aren't separated on this site) Nurturers naturally attract these people. I have also noticed that if you grew up with a parent (or other family member) like this, you can repeat this type of relationship. It can really be a type of puzzle. When one attracts the same type of friend or mate over and over, it's an opportunity to grow stronger by dealing with this person creatively, directly, and many times sternly. These types of relationships are one-way streets. To have the life you want to have, you MUST ENFORCE BOUNDARIES (sometimes this means a PPO.........not that those mean much to the seriously 'disturbed' cases). I used to let people rule my time, and throughout my 20s, I became a very resentful person. I felt robbed of time I wanted to use on my own personal goals. I have to practice what I've learned again tonight on a person that just moved into our apartment building. I realized they need boundaries set when they sat and talked on and on after I explained that my disabled child doesn't leave me with much time for my studies! *Here is what has helped me. First, it's true that you teach people how to treat you. Maya Angelou has said that, and someone posted it here as well. It's up to you to take the helm! No one is gonna step in and save you (no matter how many times you click your heels....or boots). In the initial stages of friendship and acquaintances, I make it a point to tell people that I'm a loner and that I value my solitude. I drop all the hints right away. I don't do un-announced visits. I'm always working on my art or doing things with my children. If they don't get it, I make myself unavailable. If they still don't get it, you have to say as nicely as possible, "I don't have time for a social life (or whatever you need to say). I have a family, job, project, that I need to deal with alone. You may have to say 'we can't see each other anymore'. If they don't get that, then you probably have a straight-up psycho on your hands, and you may end up involving the law. Lastly, don't feel guilty. I have a moderately mentally unstable friend who I still talk to. Somewhere, somehow, he learned that I love him no matter how long between phone calls. (Straight girl/gay boy relationships can be dramatic, passive-aggressive messes sometimes). He even said that even though I hate talking on the phone, he knows I will call him when I'm ready and that I've been there for him when it counted (deaths). Real friends can NOT talk for years and pick up where they left off with no guilt trips or hard feelings. Hey, and I think my cat finally stopped taking it personally as well :o)

Needy friends

I can relate to you 100%. I'm now in my early 40's enjoying the time I used to give away so freely to people who only clung to me to keep themselves afloat. I finally embraced solitude when I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease. It was at this time in my life I realized who my true friends were. It also gave me a way out of all the needy friendships that drowned me with constant drama and trauma. These unbalanced friendships taught me that there are two types of people in this world. There are givers, and there are takers. Givers are known to give far above their capacity to give without expecting anything in return. And yet takers never run out of room to store up all the things they selfishly expect you to give them. I have become a giver and taker to myself. I give myself time and space to grow, learn and live life to the fullest. I take myself out on dates, because I'm single, but I don't have to be single in a group to not feel alone. I give myself pats on the back, because I have to encourage myself sometimes to keep going forward. I give myself gifts, affirmations, and faith to believe in myself when no one else does. So, for this I can actually thank these people for what they taught me about myself. Unfortunately, these people can't be apart of my life, but they will always be apart of the journey of me discovering how confident, and free I can be on my own.

Thanks so much for your thoughtful post!

It's nice to hear when people work out problems in a way that is satisfying. My best,

Irene

"Friends or users"

Poor you. I do feel very sorry because you are trapped. What I would do in your situation is have a heart to heart with this person. It may end the so called friendship, but maybe that's the desired outcome. Rather than ignore her, which would make her angry and not resolve anything, tell her straight that she is monopolising your life and it must stop now. It's difficult and not pleasant and I have done that once in my life where a single girlfriend would telephone me every night and want to chat for two hours! It was the same complaints and issues every night. She drove me crazy. (We weren't exactly friends. Friends socialise and take turns at organising outings. This girl didn't. She left all the organising to me, so I felt used.). I finally had to tell her that we could not be friends anymore. It got so bad that I thought I was going to have a stroke. I dreaded the phone ringing. Take my advice - do whatever it takes to reduce or stop the contact. Even if it means having an unlisted telephone number and maybe a new cell phone number.

Reply to Mina

Mina:

Thanks so much for your very thoughtful post describing the steps that have worked for you! Thanks, too, for reading my blog~

Best, Irene

My pleasure. I know what a

My pleasure. I know what a burden this can be for 'good listeners'.

I am the clingy friend

I am the clingy friend you're all talking about. Some of us can't stop this behavior no matter how much we try. We do it out of anguish. But we do understand you. When you leave, deep inside some of us will understand it, we feel guilty, no matter what we say or do. So don't be afraid to leave us. It's not only that the world can't stand us, that's because we can't stand ourselves, and when we find someone who seems to perceive us as someone valuable and worthy of love, we need you to make us feel that way. It's literally like a drug.

me too

i used to be like that. my needy behaviour was so despaerate that it ruined many relationship. it was only when i had a good friend who also trained as a Psychiatric nurse and counsellor and she was able to give me insight into my behavoiur that was driving people away. incidentally, i had been diagnosed by a doctor with a personality disorder (Borderline Personality)- please don't get me wrong, am not saying you have this disorder, it has many other symptoms other than neediness- and had been in treatment for years for the self-harm and mood-swings symptoms, but the neediness had never been looked at. its taken me a lot of time to overcome the need i have for attention/validation, and to stop "acting out" to get it, but am getting there. i joined a church and made friends who love me and understand i have an issue. Eventually i went into Cognitive Therapy (CBT) which helped enormously. there IS hope, but it isn't easy. maybe counselling would help you too?

I too have become a clingy

I too have become a clingy friend and really could use some assistance. I've been visiting my family which has become a very draining visit (a lot of tension and some jealousy issues) and therefore have been turning to my best friend of 11 years for support. However, I notice with myself that I seem to be doing all of the calling, contact and when we do talk...she seems emotionally withdrawn. Last night when we talked I told her I felt like I was being a pest & worried about it a lot. Her response to me was...if you worry about it...it happens. It hurts...and right now...I just want to break the cycle and have a healthy friendship again. I miss that with her. Any advice?

Reply to "I too have become clingy"

It is so hard to judge a friend's emotions over the phone...you don't know when you caught her, how she was feeling, and what she was doing. Also, being away from home sounds very stressful for you. Don't assume the worst.

The most likely scenario is that your friendship will return to normal when you're back home.

Best,

Irene

 

 

Reply to clingy friend

Hi Clingy Friend:

Insight is the first step towards change. You sound so uncomfortable being clingy that you need to find a way to set some boundaries for you and your friends.

Thanks so much for your candor and for posting.

Best, Irene

Thank you.

I was very interested to read this comment. I often wondered if any of these clingy friends realized they were behaving inappropriately. I've just finally rid myself of my needy friend, and I'm relieved to read that in some recesses of this woman's mind, perhaps she might actually understand why. Thank you for being so open and honest.

Oh, well mine takes the cake.

I have been friends with the most needy, self absorbed, delusional person for nearly 8 years now. This woman can be absolutely toxic at times to the point that I have panic attacks when I feel trapped into interacting with her lately. This has never really been a 50/50 sort of relationship. I tend to be a loner by choice and I'm quite content to be with my husband and 3 kids with minimal if any social interaction. My friend knows this but for some reason doesn't understand that it not only applies to her but has been made worse by her. Of course, as these things go, I am her ONLY friend.

This is the balls to the walls bizarre part that has thrown this relationship into crazytown -she just MOVED from 3 states away and bought a house DIRECTLY across the street from mine 3 months ago. Yes, she's 20 steps from my front door at nearly all times. My life has become a nightmare and now I'm completely trapped in this beyond ridiculous situation with a woman who treats me passive aggressively and is intensely critical of me. She involves herself in my life, unsolicitedly, and is completely obsessed with me. I feel stalked. I hardly, if ever, initiate contact but she's always calling me to tell me that she is hungry or tired or bored or whatever meaningless b.s. is going on with her. She always acts as though her completely mundane activities should be my concern all the way down to her bowels. Yet at the very same time she is completely uninterested in how I feel or what I think about pretty much everything. Oh, except for fashion. That we can discuss ad nauseum during my forced weekly project runway viewing.

After three months of living as neighbors my "friend" now knows my daily schedule by heart and injects herself into my basic daily errands like shopping trips and jogging - rudely and forcefully - if necessary. She'll decide that WE MUST make such and such for dinner TONIGHT and will not take no for an answer no matter what the heck is going on in my life at the moment. She'll become literally hostile when I don't comply as she expects me to. I eventually give in though sometimes it takes days for her to wear me down to a particular commitment, she'll persist. I'm strong but this woman is crazy and I don't stand a chance. She will not except anything but what she expects of me no matter how unreasonable it is or how I resist. I have yet to erect any meaningful or lasting boundaries in this relationship because she's unbelievably mean and evil when things don't go her way. She's known for sending her military husband out like a rabid dog to crew out anyone who crosses her (of course, he's a victim too -quite a delightful man actually, poor guy). She freaks the helk out causing havoc of all proportions when she gets called on ANYTHING. Literally. Anything.

I felt trapped before when she called me everyday from across the country now I don't know what to do. She makes plans for me that she expects me to keep, calls me 5 sometimes 10 times a day and sends upwards of 20 texts -not to mention she finds ways to manipulate me into running errands with her or insist we take our kids to the park on her schedule. She guilts me into feeling sorry for her though I don't, of course, she manipulates my behaviour by making it inconvenient for me to be noncompliant.

I love the life that my family and I had built here at our home of two years. She has nothing here but me and I have everything here but I need to get away from her. I cant just up and move away from my life, my family, my husbands job, kids school -everything. She may just follow me wherever we go anyway so the effort my be completely futile.

I feel absolutely helpless. Please, if you took the time to read this, take a moment to send a prayer or a positive thought my way. I could certainly use it.

takes the cake

It certainly does. I've been the "clingy friend" people wanted to get rid of, but the thing is, those friendships all began with the other person calling or e-mailing me constantly, so that I thought those were the boundaries. When I let my guard down, it always turned out to be too much for them. I got to the point where I used to apologize for calling friends, right off, at the start of the call. I suffer from severe depression, and followed the insane advice offered by mental health professionals: Call a friend. Can I just say, this is the WORST advice ever? If you are depressed, suicidal, or in trouble, FTLOG NEVER EVER call a friend! It always results in the friendship eventually ending. It took me 10 years to learn this the hard way. It would have been so much simpler if one of my many "friends" had just given it to me straight to begin with. None of the friends who have dumped me over the years would ever admit that was what they were doing or wanted to do. I really don't get it, because they would tell absolutely everyone else on the planet how they felt, but not me. I think you should just level with them. Be honest. It's the fastest way to lose people.

im so sorry! sounds like

im so sorry! sounds like prison. I have a male friend who is unbelievavbly needy and depressing that it makes me depressed listening to his constant whining and moaning. We used to be great mates and did everything together during school but now i just find him annoying and irritating and he expects that we should do everything together. Ive just made arrangments to see my girlfriend. (she's at a seperate university to me) and he expects me to invite him up as well. (hes having sulk right now, and texted me this bizarre ranrt about how are friendship is not what it used to be!) This week, I've decided just not too reply to his texts but he justs gets more and more angry! I feel paranoid turning on my phone in the morning because everyday hes texting me! he might actually be in love with me for all i know which would explain a lot! it's like having my very own stalker! it sucks! I'm glad i came accross this site because it means im not the only one out there with this problem. selfish i know, but it kind of gives me strengh to know there are other people in the same situation as me! We can get through this! :)

TO, well mine takes the cake

It certainly does! I've posted a response here: http://www.thefriendshipblog.com/blog/when-frenemy-across-street-too-clo...

 

Hope it's helpful
Irene

hey im james and i have

hey im james and i have such a needy male friend! it's destroying me! we became really good friends in school and did a lot of things together, in retrospect he helped me out a lot and did a lot of favours for me at that time (however i have since learnt that i know him 'owe' him for everything he has done for me) a couple of months ago, i decided i wanted to end it. it was so mentally draining being his friend; have an argument, make up, argument, make up, it's a vicious circle. So i told him i wanted to stop being so close to him and then he used the old trick in the book when he made me feel bad blah blah. A couple of days later he was texting me how is life is so shit and he needs me in his life. We met up and we agreed to try again. That was a mistake. now it's: -Texts every bloody day (and if i dont text him then he gets angry at me0 -he moans and complains about how he hates life, and the next min hes completely fine -I can't go out with other people because he wants to know why i didnt invite him as well -get's furious when i can't stay round his house - when he's drunk hes go's crazy and angry and won't let me out of his sight -so demanding jeezus, its killing me, just got a text rigth now - and he wants to see me! i cant be bothered to see you!! i have a life to live!!!! arrrghhh! .....anyway, im calm, im clam! :) x

Reply to James

Yes, it's a horrible feeling to feel "trapped" by a friend!

Thanks for posting and I'm glad you found this site helpful.

 

BEst,

Irene

i kind of have a problem

i kind of have a problem with this new friend of mine. i have known her for a year at school, on and off, and we have hung out together a couple of times. but this summer we decided to hang out together since both of us felt kind of bored. the thing is, i know she decided to become friends with me since she has a lot of problems going on and she needs a helping friend to talk to. i'm a very sympathetic person and so i was happy to listen to her and encourage her. but the thing is, it's been a month now and it's kinda getting tiring to me. most of the time she's talking about herself and i feel like it's too self-absorbed if I talk about any of my problems, which are i guess not THAT bad in comparison to her problems. Moreover, she keeps telling me how people in the past have left her since she was too much of a burden for them, and says it's fine if I call it quits. I say it's fine because a)I really like her and want to be her friend b) don't want to hurt her feelings. But now that I think about it, I don't know if I want to continue being friends with her. I feel like I'm not being assertive enough about myself and it's developing into a one-sided relationship. Now that I really think about it, I have always been very passive with my friends and it's THEM who called and reached out to me most of the time and who asked me for help. For some reason I feel guilty and pretentious asking for help, however small/big it is. Obviously there's more to the story, but what do you think I should do? Should I stick with this new friend and see how our relationship develops or just call it quits? Thanks for venting.

you say you like her.

Do you? You say that you want to be her friend, and you don't want to hurt her feelings. But then you ask a bunch of people who are mainly here because they have friends they want to dump, what you should do. Of course they're going to tell you to dump her. What's changed here? Why is it suddenly feeling one-sided? There is nothing wrong with telling her that it's feeling one-sided, and that you just need a day with no complaints and no requests now and then. It actually may be a lot easier to get her to adjust her behavior, since she is aware of it. She is probably willing to work very hard to keep the friendship, so if you actually do like her, and you don't want to hurt her, you do have the option of working it out, it sounds like. But it would require you to be more assertive, and honest, instead of always letting her take the risks. It sounds as if she'll back off fast if you stop answering her calls, because she's been through this before and knows what it means.

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Toxic Friendship

Hi, I have a similar problem. A woman I met at work 4 years ago seemed really nice. We hit it off and would see each other outside of work. I must point out, however, that my husband does not care for her husband so much. They have nothing in common. Anyways, over one year ago, she went psycho on her daughter and her boyfriend. I was in the car with her and she started following them on the highway. All the while, she was yelling profanity and giving them the finger. She was speeding and pulling up next to them on the highway. I was so scared. I think that that is when I started to resent everything about her. She constantly has issues with her children, her brother, her mother and talks incessantly about it. I now realize why she has only two other friends - she probably drove all the others away. Another thing is that she purchased my husband's best friend's house and she had water in the basement. She ended up suing them and constantly badmouths them. My husband is upset because his relationship with his friend is for keeps. Anyways, last New Year's eve, these friends were over at our house for supper and the phone rang. I did not recognize the number (I hardly pick up when I know it's her) and picked up and it was her inquiring as to if, as she puts it, those 'f......' were at our house as they drove by and saw their truck. I immediately felt like she was invading my privacy. Furthermore, since January, I have had to deal with my Dad's illness, his eventual passing in April, my mother-in-law's illness and her imminent death, my mother's dependency on me as well as a sister-in-law's demands. I must point out that both my parents and in-laws live over one hour away from me and I must travel every weekend to be by their sides. I have tried on numerous occasions to explain to this friend that right now I am not able to give her what she needs. I am overwhelmed with everything in my life. She keeps e-mailing, calling and claiming that she cares about me and wishes that I would let her help me. I do not see this as caring but rather as needy. I have not asked for her help but rather her distance. Another thing she does is show up at my house unannounced, sometimes alone, sometimes with her husband. My husband and I are very private and do not appreciate this intrusion. If she shows up and I'm already in my pyjamas, I resent her so much. Also, if I decide to return her call (out of obligation), she assumes that she can just come over to my house instead. She stays past my bedtime and annoys me. The last straw was last week when she called and I did not pick up. She actually called another friend of mine and asked if she had heard anything from me as she was worried. She then e-mailed me and asked why I was not picking up the phone as she drove by the house and my car was there. I think that this borders on stalking. I wanted to tell her off right then and there but have to be diplomatic about it as we work in the same establishment. I e-mailed her back and again reiterated the stresses that I was currently under and that she would need to give me some time to sort things out. I felt like an enormous amount of stress had been lifted off my shoulders. However, I dread the eventual contacts that I will have to have with her. Has anyone ever experienced this? I

Ugh... I'm at my wits end...

My friend and I have been best friends for 30+ years. I've always known she was high-drama, high-maintenance and very needy, but lately its just too much. I try to take into consideration that she has had alot of difficult situations the past few years - serious health issues, she divorced her first husband and then her new husband left her, she's continually getting reprimanded at her job, she has financial issues, and she has few friends, if any, aside from me. She can be very manipulative. People are turned off by her behavior, so I'm basically it. During the past few months, cries every time I call and talks about committing suicide (she tried a few years ago and was hospitalized for a bit). Every conversation is about her and it is SO incredibly depressing to listen to. It's emotionally and mentally draining. I listen, make suggestions and try to be compassionate, but after 8 months of this continual drama (not to mention the intermittent episodes from the past several years), I can't take anymore. She always asks me to visit her, but my life is so busy right now. And because she dominates our conversations with her drama, she doesn't seem to comprehend that I work a full-time job, I have a family at home to take care of, my parents have had health issues lately and I've spent most of time doing things for them when I'm not working and there are several other things going on right now that have made my life incredibly busy. And she acts like a neglected child, the victim once again, like I'm not making time for her when its my "duty" as her best friend. I suppose I COULD make some time, but to be honest... I'm so very tired of dealing with her. I'm tired of trying to continually talk her off the ledge, as bad as that sounds. She's on antidepressants, she's seeing a counselor but NOTHING is helping her (because in my opinion - she won't help herself) and I just cannot do it anymore. I feel angry with her and I avoid her now so that I won't say anything harsh to upset her. But I'm at the point of no longer caring. Ugh... thanks for letting me vent...

I am in a very similar

I am in a very similar situation but so far the difference is that my friend has not hit rock bottom ......yet. She has done some pretty terrible things over the years and I have tried to tell her that she is hurting me but she doesn't get the message and after a few weeks goes back to her old tricks. It's always about her. She is so needy. There is always some drama. And it has been going on now for about 15 years. She is almost like family except that my family are sick of me telling them how she has hurt me again. I think about moving away alot. At the moment she is not talking to me. For what reason, I do not know and like you, I am at the point of not caring. Just needed to vent!

Hello! As a person who has

Hello! As a person who has been through a similar situation, I must urge you to stand up for yourself! I'm very passive, and I seem to attract people like your friend. I've had so many friends that walked all over me and didn't focus on my needs; it was like the friendship was entirely revolving around them and their problems. I wouldn't say anything, and I'd hold it all in til I exploded and the friendship ended on bad terms. The offending friend was usually completely clueless that their behavior was selfish and overwhelming until I exploded. I know it's hard, but you have to tell them firmly and kindly that their behavior is really upsetting to you and that you love her but you guys need to take a break, or that you want to be a friend, not a safety net/sounding board/punching bag, and that you are feeling neglected in your friendship. If she can't take hearing you kindly sticking up for yourself or completely resists changing the dynamic to where it favors both of you and not just her, then at least you know you tried. People will only treat you the way you let them! I know I'm not a doctor or an expert, but I have noticed a pattern within my own experiences and experiences other people have with an overwhelming friend. Hope your friendship improves!

I have been best friends

I have been best friends with one of my cousins for over 8 years. We were always sort of close, but when she got divorced and I was going through the death of my best friend, we really leaned on each other and became best friends. In hindsight, we may have replaced our old friends with each other. She lost a lot of friends in the divorce and I had lost my best friend. Things were great until about two years ago. When we first became friends, we would see each other when we were both free. It never felt like an obligation. Then a couple of years ago, we got into a routine where we would get together about twice a week since that is what our work schedule permitted. After a while, I started to notice that any time I made other plans on one of those days, she would get really upset and ask why I didn't like being around her anymore. Even if it was just one afternoon out of the month! I would explain that there were things I needed to get done on at least one of my free days, and she would say, "Look, if you don't want to hang out with me anymore, just tell me." I would tell her I loved hanging out with her, but things got worse. One day she called me at work, and I hadn't told her I was taking a vacation day that day. She called and yelled at me for not telling her, and then told me she needed to get friends that would treat her with enough respect to tell her if they don't want to spend time with her anymore. Now she calls my work periodically to check and make sure I didn't take off. She expects to be notified if I do take a day off because I must spend it with her. No matter how much I reassure her that I like being around her but I need some time to myself, she continues to take it personally. What's really strange is that if she tells me she can't do anything with me on one of the days we usually hang out and I say that it's fine, she gets mad at me for not getting mad. She'll say, "I guess you didn't want to see me anyway." She also now monopolizes most of the time we spend together, lectures me as if she's my mother, complains about everything in her life and still gets mad if I don't dedicate all my time to her. The only time we have any fun anymore is if we don't talk for weeks (because one of us is out of the city or somebody has to work weekends a couple weeks in a row). Then when we talk next, she is really sweet and it's like how it was when we first became friends. I don't want to cut her out of my life, since I know we still have those fun times. I also can't avoid her because she is part of my family and our family has a lot of get-togethers. But I can't take the possessiveness anymore and I don't know how to handle it without causing a family rift. Does anyone have any advice on how to handle a needy friend who is also a needy family member?

Similar Situation

I am in a very similar situation! I also have a cousin who has been a great friend but is beginning to become very needy. If she was a friend I could avoid, the solution would be easy for me. However, my family is very close and hangs out at least once a week, and I don't want to create a rift in the family. She is beginning to push me away with constant text messages, emails, phone calls, and requests to visit. I wouldn't mind the messages, except they say things like, "I guess you don't want to talk to me" if I don't immediately repsond. I have a very busy life with a full-time job, a husband, and a 1-year old to take care of, so it is not easy to devote much time to texting or calling her. She is single with not many hobbies or other friends, so I think she relies on me to fulfill some of her needs. Have you received any advice? Because I need some, too!!!

broken friendship

I am so glad I found this website. I have ended a friendship of over 20 years. We were best friends. But about three years ago everything changed. I had started seen a man and the relationship was going well. I was studying abraod but still kept in contact with my friend. She was single and seemed happy that I had met someone nice. She always seemed so strong and independent. All of a sudden I started to get text messages at 3 and 4 am saying that men were assholes and why couldn't she meet a nice guy. I reasured her she would meet some1 when the time was right and not to worry. She met a guy but it ended badly. Then she went into a rebound relationship which ended quickly. When I came home for holidays she hounded me to go out. Id do out and she was obsessed with meeting a guy. I went back to college and soon she met someone and I barely heard from her. When I graduated and returned home she was on cloud nine. she talked about her boyfriend constantly, how great he was how he was her best freind, how she didn't want to lose him... If i mentioned my boyfriend she would quickly change the subject back to hers. I didn't see rnuch of her until all of a sudden things were going bad in her relationship and she was constantly texting and ringing for advice talking for an hour if i let her. I told her she was too needy and that was pushing him away. All of a sudden everything was wrong , her job, her family, her car, the list was endless. I tried to listen because I realised she was insecure and I wanted to help but it got to the stage where I couldn't cope. I was having my own problems and I no knew I couldn't help her. I suggested she see a professional but she said she was fine. I lost my job and was unemployed for a few months . i was very down but she just kept on moaning, constant calls, texts and coming to my house crying and talking for hours. I was emotionally drained. Then she found out her boyfriend had cheated. She stayed with him but still used me to vent evertything. He eventually ended it and she lost it completely. I spent 4 months trying to help her. I then distanced myself from her as I cudn't take any more. I eventually confronted her and told her that i couldn't help anymore and she turned on me. She sent me reems of abusive texts. I was so hurt and didn't even respond to her. I eventually changed my number after the abuse kept coming, I still feel guilty that I couldn't do anymore for her. Why do I feel guilty and will these feelings go away? I dread bumping into her as I can't cope with any more abuse from her.

been there, too

Wow, you could have been me a few months ago! My ex-best friend and I went through the same thing! I was single for most of my life and she was always the one to have relationships, and I was always happy for her (even though she went on and on about her boyfriend and didn't want to talk about anything else)... then I finally got a wonderful boyfriend, and then she and her boyfriend broke up and it was like all he** broke loose! She depended on her boyfriend completely financially, so she was all of a sudden broke, homelss (living back with parents), alone, and hated that I was doing well in life, so I wasn't able to ever talk to her about anything in my life because it would just remind her of how bad her life was. I got tons of suicidal texts and calls, which at first I would drop everything for, but after about six months to a year of those, it got tiresome... and she only wanted to hang out with me at bars and clubs so she could pick up more guys, and she refused to get therapy even though I pleaded with her to go. Every time the phone rang and it was her, my stomach started to turn in knots, and I was always feeling guilty about not being there for her enough, because nothing I did was ever enough for her. Anyway, long story short, or trying to make a long story shorter, I finally blew up at her two years after she and her boyfriend broke up and she was still acting like a victim and wanted everyone to coddle her and walk on eggshells around her (she had a very explosive and violent temper as well). After I talked to her about our friendship problems, she took no responsibility and told me I was a selfish friend and had been for around five years (that was shortly after I moved out of my parent's house and started "growing up" and I think she felt left behind because she never really got out on her own). It was about what I expected from her... she was never one to really accept responsibility for her own actions.

So yeah, after the friendship ended, I still had (have) a huge void in my heart, and I didn't like the way things ended. I miss her because she was one of the few people I had been friends with for many years (13 years) and I felt comfortable around her and she was creative and intelligent and was a caring person when she wanted to be, but at the same time, I know we can never be good friends again because she will always be too self-centered and dramatic for a person like me, and I've grown out of wanting to be around that all the time (we were better friends when we were both young and immature and more irrational). I love to listen and help people, but I also need friends who will listen to me too when I need them, and it was like she was always trying to "win" the competition of who had the worst life, so I could never go to her with problems because she would turn it around and talk about herself instead and how much worse her life was. I too dread bumping into her because we share common friends, but I'll just smile and wave at her if I run into her, and go on with what I am doing. If she tries to reach out and be my friend again, I'll have to tell her that even though she's not a bad person, she's not the right person for me to be friends with and I obviously couldn't provide her with satisfactory friendship and so am not the right friend for her. If your friend tries to abuse you in public, just tell her that you have no desire to fight with her or hate her, just that you think you guys have outgrown your bond and do eachother more harm than good.

Anyway, it felt good to vent, too. Good luck! :D

How to balance this relationship?

Yes, I can relate to a lot of what I have been reading here. My situation is that I have a best friend who is really a kind person at heart, very kind. It's just that her emotional needs can be sort of towering and definitely dominate the relationship. For instance, I may call her up and say, "Hello, how are you" and her reply can last 60 to 90 minutes (not an exchange, a monologue). She speaks of much unhappiness - health, finance, love life, family, etc. (She does work on these issues, however, which makes it easier to bear.) When she asks me to talk about my life, I may get 5 minutes into sharing something with her, but then feel almost like I am talking into a void or dead space - and it kind of sucks the air out of the conversation. She can sound very down or despondent in these instances, and sometimes she suddenly needs to get off the phone. Other times, however, she is very supportive and allows for more space. So, it is the flip flop back and forth that makes things really difficult to navigate. Usually I don't mind these dynamics too much - just sometimes things can flare and become difficult. I've triend talking with her a couple times about it and it seems to improve for awhile. But then it reverts back. Any advice?

I know the feeling.. .I

I know the feeling.. .I really do.... i actually used to be one of these types of friends as a teenager.. Luckily I grew out of it and really realized that no one needs a clingy friend... I however, have been saddled with a friend that is ten times more needy than I've ever been... He always needs something... Time, help making a decision.. he's lonely, bored, hungry, wants money... He is like this overwelming force... When we're together he talks and talks and talks... He dominates the conversation to the point where he could easily talk for 30 min to an hour straight without anyone else getting a word in... It makes me feel exhausted He used to call constantly. He does this to other people.. .You know they don't want to answer because he calls 24/7.. It's almost never urgent but he behaves as though it's urgent. If he's ever in real trouble, he'll really be screwed.. I feel depressed because i know he's depressed... i know he needs me... but I just can't keep being that one person that comes every time he needs someone.. It's exhausting.. It's depressing... I definitely feel trapped and I'm tired of it..

Reply to At the Breaking Point

You definitely need to think about setting some better boundaries for this relationship with what sounds like a very needy guy. It's admirable that you have outgrown being needy yourself but you still need to work to develop more balanced relationships, whether they are male or female.

Thanks so much for reading this Friendship Blog and taking the time to write.

Best Wishes,

Irene

Abusive Female

I learnt the hard way from a Female Emotional Vampire. She was the "grand master". Sucked all the positive energy in a hurricane. I'm just starting to recover from it. For months I kept thinking it was me - I was the one screwed up! But then I started to see massive sociopath patterns in her behaviour. I pulled out of the relationship as there was no way she could see what she was doing. Even turning up at my house at 2am because she had an argument with her husband. She became a copy of me. Everything I was doing she started doing and trying to compete with me to be better. What a disturbed person. I don't hate her, rather I feel sorry for her. But thank goodness I'm out of that bizarre relationship.

I know now how it feels

Hi I am 15 years old and my best friend is 16. I have just realized how needy she is. She is always asking for advice and support and simpathy. She has had this stomach problem for the longest time and she is always complaining! It drives me insane. And recently I have become friends with my ex bff and shhas not handled that well she never wants me alone with anyone but her and she is always needing reasurance that she is my beat friend and that she will never be replaced. I hate this and I know that I am getting nothing out of this friend ship but I can't just leave her because we have been grinds for as long as I can remem

feeling terrible

Hello! I have a sort of odd situation. My best friend of almost 30 off & on years is very needy. I am constantly there for her on the telephone as she lives across the country. My problem is this..........she is very high drama. She always has a physical or emotional ailment that must be talked of incessantly. I'm okay with that though & I try to give her advice & listen. She asks for my help & I try. My problem now though is that she feels my advice is me being "superior." This is SO painful as I am being asked for advice but now realize that she must not really want it. I don't really get it. To be so there for her though & then be told that I'm a jerk for trying to help feels bad. She has said now that I am pointing out her character flaws instead of trying to help her. Huh? I adore her but this is beginning to feel like quicksand. After this happens she is all apologetic. We've noticed this cycle before & she has tried to stop complaining & asking for help but it always creeps back. I've never told her off over it so to be told off myself for trying to help is miserable. The difference too is that she would be there for me if I have a problem but I am SO anti-complaining from this whole experience that I never complain. Ugh! Thanks!

feeling terrible

It doesn't have to be all or none? Can you wean yourself off her slowly and start spending more time with other girls?

I have a similar

I have a similar relationship with a friend of mine. He's a very emotional person, and has had a hard life, but wants to constantly be around me, emotionally as well as physically. I have a lot of people I like to hang out with, but he gets upset when I put off spending time with him to be with others. He always calls me his 'best friend', and I know it's because I've taken the time and energy to talk and listen to him, but now it just sucks the life and soul out of me to have him feel like I should always be around him. I can tell he's very depressed, and I don't know what he'd do if I just stopped hanging out with him. It's a hard friendship...

Needy friend

I found this site after doing a web search for "needy friend". I think I'm just looking for closure to a "friendship" that has thankfully ended. Why I put up with such a self-centered needy person for those few months is puzzling to me. The endless whining phone calls, the fear of this person of spending any time alone, the embarrassing social faux pas, it was all such a pain! This was unusual as it was a male friend who has many feminine qualities, I am a woman about 18 years older. Despite the fact that I made it clear that I wouldn't date him, he was desperate to find a woman to replace his former dysfunctional relationship, and kept hoping to slide into the role of "boyfriend" in my life. When it became clear that he would never be anymore than a "girlfriend" to me, he disappeared! I suppose I thought I could help him, and I had a curiosity about how anyone could be so needy and clueless. The experiment became a social disaster for me, as I did not want to be associated with someone who behaved so poorly. What really pushed my tolerance to the limit was when he could not extend the same courtesy to a really good girlfriend of mine, that I had shown him (they were both beginning kayakers). Such is the way with the self-absorbed. I say "Ditch 'em!"

Experience with needy friends but this one's different

Hi, I'm a very independent person with very wonderful friends like me from my undergrad and an equally independent younger sister who is my healthiest best friend. I have had several girls "crush" and become obsessively needy with me and I am used to the "training" process to ween them off me. In most cases, we remain friends, but they understand that I am NOT going to be their sister or soulmate in the way they want me to be. This is my first year in grad school and I have a new needy friend. In this case, it is very hard to avoid her since we take the same train into school. After doing things with her (I like to go out and so does she..there aren't many students who want to do anything after class) I got to know her, her friends, and her family. The peoplel whom she surrounds herself with are wonderful, intelligent, and independent people and we enjoy each others' company. I even am having romantic feelings towards her cousin! Though she now knows that I won't be there for every phone call (I hate talking on the phone and frequently ignore her phone calls) and won't give her ALL the gum ALL the train tickets and ALL the things she needs because she is not responsible, AND making other friends, she is starting to push harder about going out all the time. She whines when I tell her 'no, I am with my family today'. After saying 'no', she frequently gets angry with me and gives me the silent treatment. I have no problem with this bc this childishness has no effect on me, but I do let her know that I do not tolerate that kind of behavior. But it continues...Since we are in the same classes, we have the same days off, and I am getting tired of making up excuses. Usually, what I do has worked by now in a friendship. What more can I do without losing her wonderful family?

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