When I was growing up in the 70s, the progressive view held that a person could live a rich, rewarding life full of close bonds, even if she didn't have kids. On prime-time Saturday nights, Mary and Rhoda in their studio singles apartments, Bob and Emily in their Chicago high rise mingled happily with friends and co-workers who were parents, and were accepted as equals despite their childless status.
I am an unintentionally childless woman, and I have grown up to a rich and rewarding life, with one caveat: I wasn't prepared for the social stigma and isolation of living as a non-Mom in the midst of the biggest baby boom since World War II.
My suburban childhood friends began having children in their mid-twenties. I lived in New York City, and on weekends home I was more than willing to celebrate their family lives. But as the years rolled on, and I failed to produce children of my own, I was gradually excluded. I was invited to their first child's christening, not the second's. They were always taking the kids to see Grandma, or to another child's birthday party; mere friends were bumped off their social radar screens. The family-both nuclear and extended-closed ranks, excluding outsiders.
Worse, when my city girlfriends started having babies and did include me, I was reduced to the role of handmaiden, exactly as if I were just another of their housekeepers, secretaries, or nannies. Only unlike the other members of their support staff, I wasn't on salary. It was painful when some of my friendships with Moms ended, but at a distance of ten years, I see this as inevitable. Parents need an enormous amount of practical and emotional support, but are no longer in a position to provide what they demand.
If you're happy being a planet orbiting around someone else's sun, good for you. But I find one-sided friendships as rewarding as unrequited love affairs, and as healthy. To me friendship is like a Siamese twin: the life blood must circulate through both bodies. When the spirit of one twin departs, the furiously working heart of the surviving twin cannot do all the work of keeping the other half alive; the joint life-force dies.
I'm not alone in noting the effects of the Great Mother Divide. In her 2009 book, Silent Sorority: A (Barren) Woman Gets Busy, Angry, Lost and Found (winner of the 2010 Hope Award for Best Book from RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association) Pamela Tsigdinos recounts a problematic lunch with a friend who went on to have three children while the author remained childless, despite extensive fertility treatments. After admitting her alienation at an exclusively child-centered chat, her Mom-friend asked, "Are you telling me I have to edit out large chunks of my life from now on when we talk?"
Tsigdinos suggested, "Let's just try to pattern-match our conversation a bit."
Despite vows to try to keep their connection afloat, Tsigdinos and her Mom friends continued to drift apart. "Phone calls became less regular. The urgency to schedule visits evaporated. "They didn't know how to relate to me." She and her husband grew "accustomed to broken plans or being put on the bench because the needs of our family and friends' kids, naturally, came first."
Tsigdinos's solution to "the mother divide" was creating her own international community of non-Mom friends through her blog, Coming2Terms. "We don't have to explain ourselves; we just fundamentally get each other. My story is her story and her story is my story and collectively we're writing the sequel. I hear from women in Finland, Rhode Island, Australia, Oklahoma, Ireland, Canada, and in my own back yard. New friendships are born."
Therapist Stephanie Baffone counsels women who exit the fertility treatment maze empty handed into a world of mothers. "Finding a way to negotiate friendships in the face of the 'great divide' is crucial. When friends cross over to join the ranks of motherhood, and the infertile patient is left behind to languish alone on the sidelines, friendships often become strained. Bad enough our bodies have levied against us the ultimate betrayal, but it goes from insult to injury when friendships reach this fork in the road, and the Moms saunter down a road without a backward glance."
Baffone herself wound up childless after failed fertility treatments, and personally closed "the mother divide" by plunging into the lives of her family and friends. "Once I was able to accept that I probably would never be a Mom myself, I began to look for ways I could be proactive in closing the gap, which included regular family dinners, holiday scavenger hunts. It's been so long since I struggled with friendships, it's hard for me to tap into that part of my life now."
But Baffone stresses that this is simply what worked for her, not a one-size fits all solution. Tsigdinos hasn't given up on friendships with Moms, but recently noted on her blog, "The gap isn't easy to bridge. It requires commitment by both parties, and not always being asked to accommodate the mom life."
I second that. Because we childless are a minority, social etiquette hardly gives us a thought. My friend Yvonne relates, "My husband and I were honored to be invited to the home of a co-worker. But my colleague was so besotted with her infant son, so completely absorbed by him during the entirety of our visit with the most embarrassing display of non-inclusive public displays of affection (PDA), I wondered why they had us over at all."
While co-hosting a party in honor of my 90-year old aunt, a Mom immediately handed me her child's computer and commanded me to read a book report and ten page "short" story. Why she felt it appropriate to ask me to take 20 minutes away from entertaining my guests to read anything off of a computer is beyond me, but she was blissfully unaware that this social event wasn't about her child.
So how can parents tell when enough kid-focus is enough? Says Pamela Tsigdinos: "When you see their eyes glaze over."
Christina Gombar is an award-winning author who writes often on childlessness at www.ChristinaGombar.com.


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Thanks for the article!
First I want to say how impressed I am with the article and the thoughtful responses. I'm used to a lot of insane rambling on the internet and everyone here seems educated and articulate, it was refreshing!
I understand the moms who feel angered by the article, but I am on the other side. I am also "unintentionally childless". It's very difficult sometimes to bear all the pressure from friends, family, and even strangers - all of whom ask you when you will be having a baby or why you don't have one already. Their pressure saddens me because I did really want children, very much, but now it's too late. I turn 49 in a couple of months and still feel this pressure regularly. Strangers and friends alike tell me it's not too late, and I think, "Are you crazy?" Even if I could miraculously conceive, I would not have the energy or health to care for a child in the way he or she deserves.
As a childless woman, I feel somehow vindicated that someone is finally speaking out about this issue. I love children, I adore them - but even feeling that way has not saved the friendships I had with the mothers in my life. There comes a time of divide at some point, where our lives seem to have nothing in common anymore. Even our values seem to change and grow apart. This divide became much more pronounced after my divorce. I was no longer a relevant entity to the the married with children set. While I was traveling, starting a business, going to concerts and hanging out at coffee shops, the mommy crowd was at home doing what they do. We didn't relate anymore, and I suppose there was also some jealousy on both sides. I longed for children, and they longed for freedom. I'm not sure how many friendships can survive this kind of pulling apart.
Another small minefield has been finding friends of any kind at my age. Sure I have friendly acquaintances, but real solid friendships are difficult. I find I can relate to younger people more readily because of the similarity of our lifestyles and worldviews, but at the same time there is a maturity to my personality that they cannot satisfy. Most of the people that are my age are grandparents right now, while I am still a carefree type, living a bohemian lifestyle. We just don't match up. Add to this the odd pressure from my family to stop making friends with younger people - they think it's creepy - and you have a recipe for virtual friendlessness.
I won't say I have given up on finding a good friend or two, but it seems my friend possibilities have withered along with my ability to have children. I guess I am lucky that I relish reading and other solitary activities. I do get out in the world and enjoy the company of fellow human beings, even if it's superficial pleasantries at the coffee shop or park. We all need other people, we are social creatures - but I wish it was easier to make meaningful connections.
The Mother Divide: Friends with children and friends without
I'm over 35, never married, and have never have had kids. It's very hard making friends. Most people my age are married or have kids, and all they want to talk about is kid stuff or married life.
I have never liked babies or children, but most people have assumed that just because I'm a female, I must simply adore babies. They are always wanting me to hold their baby or think I'd love to baby sit their five year old.
I get quickly bored by "baby" talk (or toddler/ pre teen/ teen age daughter/son talk).
I'm particularly repulsed and bored by "bodily function" discussions many parents love to get into (and usually in great detail), and I cannot understand why so many of them think topics about their kid's bowel movements or messy diaper changes are cute, fascinating, or would be appealing to other adults (they are not).
Most moms I've been around refuse to discuss anything other than their kids, and they won't ask me about how I'm doing, or talk about things both of us can relate to or enjoy, such as movies or books.
Most of American culture is heavily skewed to marriage and kids. That also makes it ten times more difficult to be a single woman with no kids.
As an older single person, I get excluded or left out of many social functions.
I'm also very irritated by people who assume (because of my age) that I must be divorced. Not so. I've never been married, so I've never been divorced.
I also run into new people who assume I'm divorced and that I have kids. I've never had kids.
In the original post, the author quoted a mother friend as saying to her friend,
"After admitting her alienation at an exclusively child-centered chat, her Mom-friend asked, "Are you telling me I have to edit out large chunks of my life from now on when we talk?"
Obviously, no. And I cannot believe that woman even had to ask. I think it's common sense.
Most childless women can tolerate some baby focused conversations, but many mothers talk about nothing else, or the majority of their conversations are about motherhood.
(Equally bothersome and self absorbed: women planning weddings who won't discuss anything other than their upcoming nuptials).
The article said, "So how can parents tell when enough kid-focus is enough? Says Pamela Tsigdinos: "When you see their eyes glaze over." "
That's good, but I'd also encourage people to be aware of the ratio going on. Keep track of how long you've been talking about YOU (or you kids, upcoming wedding, your job, whatever), and limit it to only about five or ten minutes.
Then pause, let your friend say whatever she wants to say about it, then make a point of asking your friend,
"But how about you? What have you been doing lately?"
Then let your friend gab about herself for awhile.
If you're doing more talking than listening, you're probably talking about yourself (or your kids) too much.
I thoroughly appreciated these lines in the article:
"If you're happy being a planet orbiting around someone else's sun, good for you. But I find one-sided friendships as rewarding as unrequited love affairs, and as healthy"
And the other stories in the article, too, the ones about showing up to a social gathering at New Mom's house, and New Mom spent the whole time ignoring her adult guests to dote on her infant son. I've been in situations like that many times.
It's very difficult being older, never married, and not having any kids.
When you are older, never married and childless, people feel free to pass you over, ignore you, exclude you, or make judgments about you or your character, or they feel free to ask rude, highly personal questions or make offensive assumptions about you.
Our media is saturated with movies, TV shows, and commercials about dating, having kids, or marriage/ weddings, so sometimes watching TV or looking at magazines can be hard.
Why I've ended friendships
I wish I could meet you...
Why I've ended friendships (childless)
Anonymous, thank you for sharing your story.
I related to a lot of it. I have never married or had kids, and people like us are usually ignored or not invited out by couples or people with kids.
When you are around married people, or see the magazine ads for bridal gowns and stuff like that, those reminders can be hard to cope with, I know.
I'm sorry you're alone and hurting.
I do have a few people in my life, but I'm not very close to them, and the others, I cannot talk to them (some have very bad temper problems and insult me and yell at me if I try to talk to them), so I'm still alone, too.
I hope things get better for you.
I'm the best friend that thought could never be dumped
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I understand how hard it is
This was an excellent topic
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Reply to Kathryn
Thanks for such a thoughtful post. You raise a good point and your post was just long enough to do that!
Best, Irene
One-sided friendships
i read your letter. i am
This article made me angry...
Yes, I agree
I'm sorry if I sound angry.
Not a single mum, but still missing my non-mum friends, actually
agree with angry
Well spoken...
well said.
Good relationships do exist
My best friend of 15 years, a woman I met as a college sophomore, is a divorced single mother of two middle schoolers. I have loved them all as they loved me. We now live about 1,500 miles apart; separately, their mother and I have had at least four periods in our friendship living significant distances from each other. Despite her struggles over the years, my friend has remained a compassionate (and mischievous) woman. She enriches my life, and it's the first time this eccentric only child has had, or wanted, a sibling. I am a happy "aunt" to her children, too.
There's no magic solution to mend the divide between some childless individuals and married or single parents. From my experience, my best friend is the sole person in our immediate peer group who hasn't become completely self-absorbed or awkward about their married or parental status around me. More than once I've had longtime friends with kids visit town, have dinner with another group of longtime married friends, and tell me after the fact. They could've kept that to themselves. I resent it, a lot.
One person, a woman I grew up with and stood up for at her disaster of a wedding, never had enough time for our friendship. It began the day she married, really, with no "thank you" to the entire wedding party for enduring terrible behavior from her husband's family, some guests, and even neighborhood people outside the church. So as Dr. Levine often suggests, I dialed it back over the years. Well, this woman reached out recently, only to make our relationship all about her life, and now children, again, with little interest in mine. So out of respect for our history, I offered her a choice about my needs for the relationship. Well, she lost her good sense and called me everything out of the book of insults, saying I should be more accomodating. She also ridiculed my past history with depression. The cherry on top was her comment that I "wasn't special." I seriously wanted to reach out and touch her, and not in a good way. I said never contact me again if she knew what was good for her.
Though my best friend and I have occasionally had problems, too, what bonds us is mutual respect for each other's interests, both personal and professional. We're both writers, so we like to think we see beauty in things others don't. (Yeah, right.) We find topics to laugh about quite often. Her children are her top priority, but she doesn't impose them on every situation, including conversations. We recently visited a botanical garden and winery, where we chatted all day, alone. Separately, I have fun helping her children learn on trips to the museum or walking in a historic part of town. Education is important to their mother and me; we want our enthusiasm for learning to rub off so they'll be just as passionate!
So please take solace in knowing good relationships across the parental divide do exist.
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Right on
From a Single Mom
Don't Make Assumptions
I Can Relate!
self-centered, from the other side...
But you don't seem to have considered that your husband's move from Assistant Regional Manager to Regional Assistant to the Manager is, quite possibly, the *only* subject that is more boring to the average person than "what my child ate today: a requiem in five parts."
Your child-having friends and relatives are, I guarantee you, also interested in having a good conversation with real adults for a change. You need to do your part by thinking of something better than insipid small talk.
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To Anonymous who said,
"But you don't seem to have considered that your husband's move from Assistant Regional Manager to Regional Assistant to the Manager is, quite possibly, the *only* subject that is more boring to the average person than "what my child ate today: a requiem in five parts."
Your child-having friends and relatives are, I guarantee you, also interested in having a good conversation with real adults for a change. You need to do your part by thinking of something better than insipid small talk. "
I think you were a little hard on her. I think she was just saying her married friends with kids should take an interest in her and her husband (who don't have kids).
I don't think she meant to say that she and her husband wanted to drone on and on in great detail for three hours in a row at every gathering about every aspect of his job.
She seemed only to mean that she felt that her married friends with kids were ignoring her and her husband, by only talking about their kids and not asking her questions about her/her spouse's lives.
I don't think that "job talk" is always equivalent to "insipid small talk."
I absolutely agree! When I
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From a Childless by Choice Woman
A Mom Asks ...
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this strikes a chord
I've definitely run into the type of mother who assumes that as a childfree woman I must have heaps of time and energy to help her with household and child-care responsibilities. The type of mother who has lots of time for you - as long as you pitch in and lighten her load.
Then there is another category: The woman who is in a panic to get a husband and get pregnant ASAP because her clock is ticking. She's not going to waste time hanging around with another single woman unless it involves ways to meet available men. (Going to bar or nightclub= good, hiking or museums=bad.) She doesn't have much to talk about other than her search for a man. No hobbies, no interests, and no interest in your interests. That gets old, and it's not a friendship.
So it gets pretty lonely.
What a seriously sad analysis of the world...
Sad but true
Hi Gombar,
on pain
Your post reminds me of two things:
1) The First Buddhist Noble Truth is Life is Suffering. It's true that no one here gets away with a pain-free life. But we sure don't have to wallow in it, do we? We must snatch at what little joys there are to be had while we are alive. And there are many to be had.
2) "Religion is the opiate of the masses." - Karl Marx. I have often thought of this as a negative statement, that we need to break the shackles of an addiction to this opiate. However, I can see it differently in light of your post. Religion can be a balm to the wounds of life.
Fortunately, I was taught at an early age that pain in life is unavoidable. Suffering can dig a deep hole in your heart - but I believe you can let that make your soul deeper too. You can learn a lot of compassion for others if you know suffering, and the deep hole in your heart can become a vessel to fill with love for others.
wonderful!
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